Premiere Pro CS4 – AME – exporting quality issues

[Nathan Gross]

Hey Eddie,

At the trade shows the monitors are positioned vertically rather than horizontally.

[Eddie Lotter]

[Nathan Gross] “At the trade shows the monitors are positioned vertically rather than horizontally.”

Ah, gotcha.

Let us know if David’s suggestions help.

Cheers
Eddie

[Nathan Gross]

I have rotated the vertical videos horizontally (so everything is sideways) and seem to have much better success exporting. I can easily rotate the videos back in QT. This will probably be the workflow from here on out.

Thanks for all the input!

[George Socka]

Just checking – when I do this, I create a normal wide screen project, then rotate the content 90 degrees so they appear sideways within Premiere. And when played on the computer. When you turn the external monitor on its end, then it looks right. Use a 16.9 monitor turned on its end during editing to avoid neck pain.

But I may have missed the point.

George Socka
BeachDigital
http://www.beachdigital.com

[Jon Barrie]

Just so you know… the screens are only positioned vertically (tall) the input and signal is still horizontal (wide) the face that the monitor is turned means that you need to still working with a wide format that has the content on its side. know the correct side is key. Is the bottom of the screen really the right of the wide screen? or is it left?

So if you try to play a vertical video through a monitor like this it will show up as a skinny little video or not at all you expect it. test this monitor and it’s format capabilities.

– Jon

(used to make motion graphics for vertically turned monitors for beauty products)

Jon Barrie
aJBprods
http://www.jonbarrie.net

[Nathan Gross]

George and Jon,

Thanks for the input. Yes I have since been working “sideways” which seems to work fine. In the past I worked “right side up” and just rotated the video before sending to the display company. I guess I liked working right side up because it was easier to proof.

On a side note: I export a “sideways” video from Premiere rotate in QT and save for client proof and upload to Vimeo the video plays (in the vimeo flash player) sideways. Has anyone had any similar issues with rotated video not playing correctly?

We use vimeo to host videos for client reviews because it is cheap, fairly simple, and pretty secure. We are open to any suggestions for a better method. We run into clients not having QT, outdated QT, etc.

Thanks!

[David Dobson]

I have done edits for very large outdoor screens – vertical. I did them in Final Cut Pro, but the principle is the same. I edited them in a custom sequence set not to the screen resolution, but to some other resolution defined by the show producer – and exported quicktimes and M-Jpegs. Saw them on TV and they looked fantastic – but they have special system for displaying those….

But the main thing is that you should be able to export anything from AME – you just have to make sure you are using square pixels. The only problem with that is that the Plasma TV HAS vertical pixels..ha ha! So actually, if you don’t use the correct pixel aspect ratio, your image will be stretched! I would think. You’ll have to test it and tell us what happened.

I’d still use H.264 at 2.5 to 3.0 Mb/s – that seems to play back well and really looks quite good – but if it must be QT, then try M-JPEG

[Nathan Gross]

Thanks David!

We have been exporting similar videos for over a year with great success. The only thing that changed was the method.

Before we exported lossless videos from AE and combined/compressed/exported them in QT (H.264 .mov files). We had been working with the video in the “correct” vertical format from start to finish. QT had no problem exporting 768×1280. It was when we moved to Premiere and tried to still work with the vertical format videos that things got a little weird.

Now we keep all the video files rotated (1280×768) and all seems fine. Except for the before mentioned rotation issue using vimeo.

Thanks!