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  • Premiere Pro Audio Mapping

    Posted by Jason Wood on April 3, 2013 at 11:59 am

    Hi, I’m trying to achieve in Premiere what I can in FCP. Our delivery specs are as follows

    Mov Audio Configuration

    1&2 STEREO MIX
    3&4 M&E
    5&6 FRONT LEFT/RIGHT
    7&8 CENTRE/LFE
    9&10 LEFT SURR/RIGHT SURROUND
    11&12 SILENCE
    13&14 SILENCE
    15&16 SILENCE

    In FCP, if there is a glitch on track 2 you can unlink the audio and make mono and copy down from track 1. then make them stereo again. Basically we need to use them as stereo tracks but have the ability to edit each track independently of each other in certain occasions, whether it be to fix a glitch or edit one of the 5.1 tracks etc.

    I was thinking that i could work in mono, then change to stereo on export, however as mono is 1 track and stereo is 1 track in premiere, not sure how i fit 16 tracks into 8. If you could modify audio for a sequence in the same way you can for mov in the project pane then that would help but its not possible. I don’t think…

    Any help on this would be much appreciated.

    Cheers Jason

    Thanks in advance

    Jason

    Art Chudabala replied 10 years, 9 months ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Tim Kolb

    April 3, 2013 at 1:42 pm

    Stereo doesn’t have to be one track in PPro…that hasn’t been the case for several releases.

    If you make a 16 channel master sequence and make each track a standard or mono track, you can set up the output as you describe, but you either need to change your audio import preferences to import stereo as mono, or just select each clip in the project panel and right click> modify> audio tab and change audio clips from 1 track-stereo to 2 tracks-mono for each clip.

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • Jason Wood

    April 3, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Hi Tim, thanks for the reply… I’ve actually managed to get a stereo sequence but when it comes to exporting it always comes out as mono. If you look at the file’s metadata it shows one audio track which contains 16 channels of discrete audio. We’re just looking to find a way of exporting a mov that contains 8 stereo pairs.

    Just seems a bit dumb that you cant split the stereo tracks, work as 16 channels, then for export make it 8 stereo pairs again.

    Maybe I’m looking at it with an FCP hat on, but it was so much more intuitive. It’s frustrating the way the sequence is locked down once you create it. Or maybe U’m missing something somewhere.

    Thanks again

    Jason

  • Tim Kolb

    April 3, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    Keep in mind that FCP may make sense to you…but I wouldn’t want to try to move in that direction.

    There are pan controls on each track and you can specify this when you make the sequence, or you can simply adjust the pans in the audio mixer before you export as you route them to specific pairs…(1+2, 3+4, etc).

    If you route the tracks per your specifications and make sure that each track is panned left and right, does that not work?

    What are your export settings when you create the file?

    TimK,
    Director, Consultant
    Kolb Productions,

    Adobe Certified Instructor

  • David Mcgavran

    April 4, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    We added the ability to output single track (cs6 option), multiple monos, or stereo pairs to QT export in Premiere Pro/AME Next.

    Should be able to support any and all options you might have had in other apps.

    Cheers

    Dave

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  • Jeromey Shannon

    June 19, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    I was about to ask a similar question but I just solved it so I hope you don’t mind that I post the answer here. I need to deliver OP1a MXF files with SMPTE 8-track audio to TV stations for broadcast. The SMPTE standard is L R C Lfe RLs Rs and a stereo mix on 7+8.

    In an Avid I can select my sequence to be “Direct, surround tracks in SMPTE order” and when I export an OP1a MXF file the tracks are output as 8 discreet mono tracks. This is the easy way of doing it.

    These are the ways I tried to do it in Premiere: I can set my sequence to be 8 mono tracks but on export my MXF file has all 8 tracks mixed down in mono on tracks 1+2 and 3-8 are blank. I can set my sequence to 5.1, but then I can only map the tracks to 5.1 channels, not the stereo pair on 7+8. If I choose a stereo sequence tracks 1, 3, 5, and 7 are mixed to channel 1, and 2, 4, 6, 8 are mixed to channel 2 with 3-8 blank.

    So what’s the solution in Premiere? (The solution will also work for QuickTimes, and for 16 channels, just add the extra channels you need.)

    First, create a new sequence, set your video to whatever your requirement is, but under the Tracks tab select “Master: Multichannel” and number of channels to 8. Create 8 Tracks with the + button. Set all these to “Track Type: Mono”. Set the “Pan/Balance” of tracks 1,3,5,7 to -100 and tracks 2,4,6,8 to +100. (You’ll want to save this as a preset.)

    Now open the Audio Mixer and set tracks 1 and 2 to “1+2”, 3 and 4 to “3+4”, 5 and 6 to “5+6”, 7 and 8 to “7+8”.

    Now when I export from the sequence I get true 8 channel direct audio tracks with my OP1a file. Phew. What a lot of work!

    Jeromey Shannon

  • Paul Whishaw

    August 28, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    It would be FANTASTIC if Adobe would allow you to modify the audio tracks of an existing sequence instead of having to create a whole new sequence just to add more track export options. I find this a little frustrating.

    Paul Whishaw
    PDVpro.com
    “If it moves, We’ll Shoot it”

  • Melody Kellis

    July 28, 2014 at 8:56 pm

    Hello,
    I know this thread is a bit old but it does seem to pertain to my question so hopefully I can activate it once again.
    I need to export a mult-track, not multi-channel, QT file out of Premiere Pro CS6.
    This is a spec I need to reach and cannot embed the 8 discrete channels into one QT soundtrack. I need, in QT7 properties/inspector, 8 separate sound tracks, each with one channel. It seems the issue is the one multichannel master track. I cannot figure out how to separate from a master track to create the 8 separate tracks.
    Hopefully there is a way to do this.
    Anyone know how?
    Thanks!
    Melody

  • Art Chudabala

    August 5, 2015 at 6:46 am

    Melody! Funny that we ran into each other here looking for the same answer! Ha!

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