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  • Premiere Pro and Decklink card

    Posted by Oliver Peters on January 12, 2013 at 12:13 am

    I’ve had considerable flakiness with Premiere Pro CS6 and the BMD Decklink HD Extreme card. This is generally with 1080p/23.98 ProRes media using the ARRI or BMD presets. Sometimes I’ll open a project and either the clips in the source viewer or the sequence will not play audio or video through the hardware. Close the project and relaunch and all is fine. Other times I’ve had one isolated clip that sounds distorted. I cut the clip to the timeline and it’s fine. The clips just before and just after (same shoot) don’t behave this way. Another issue is that clips and sequences will play fine for a while and then after a while, the audio just quits playing through the card. The same card on the same machine works fine with FCP 7, FCP X, Resolve, Color and Media Composer. All seems to point to bugginess in either the Mercury hardware abstraction layer or the BMD drivers. Thoughts?

    Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

    Oliver Peters replied 13 years, 4 months ago 3 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Tom Daigon

    January 12, 2013 at 12:41 am

    I would theorize its the BMD drivers. When CS6 was developing Adobe Transmit (the new code allowing external devices like Kona to more easily get hooks into the Player). BMD seems to have more trouble then AJA.

    As someone running CS6.02 on a HP Z820 PC I can say the the Kona runs as expected. No frame delays to the external monitor. No audio issues.
    With AJA and Adobe products, you now dont need to use any special sequences. Just the regular old Adobe sequences will now playback with full CUDA goodness and display on my external engineering monitor.

    I dont care for BMD so have no experiences to share regarding their products. Sorry.

    Tom Daigon
    PrP / After Effects Editor
    http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxPrG3WUyz8
    (Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
    HP Z820 Dual 2687
    64GB ram
    Dulce DQg2 16TB raid

  • Oliver Peters

    January 13, 2013 at 2:15 am

    I just found a thread describing similar issues at Blackamagic’s own forum. Seems like Decklink and Premiere Pro is a bad combination.

    Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Peter Garaway

    January 13, 2013 at 7:47 am

    Hi Oliver,

    Sorry to hear about the problems your running into.

    You’ve probably have this figured out but just in case I thought I’d give you this link on how to properly set up a Blackmagic card with Premiere Pro.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR8i5H5Lm44

    Can you tell me if there seems to be any specific thing you do that causes the audio to become distorted? Does the audio randomly drop out during editing or only on first launch?

    Is your media on a local drive, external, server?

    Thanks for your time,

    Best,

    Peter Garaway
    Adobe, Premiere Pro QE

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  • Oliver Peters

    January 13, 2013 at 1:09 pm

    Thanks for this, but this is what I’ve been doing. The trouble is the performance is inconsistent. I can have an issue, close PPro, relaunch and the problem goes away. Problems range from occasional distorted audio of source clips, playback from one side but not the other (source versus timeline), audio that goes away after a while, etc. All of these seem to be fixed when you close and relaunch. The card works fine with all other applications on the same machine (FCP 7, FCP X, Media Composer). And sometimes, it works fine with Premiere. Just not always. It’s never been completely right with Premiere Pro CS6.

    System is a 12-core Mac Pro connected via fibre channel to a SAN. ATI 5870 graphics card. OSX 10.8.2.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Peter Garaway

    January 15, 2013 at 10:06 pm

    Thanks for the added info. I’ll continue to investigate this.

    Could you tell me which Shared Storage solution your using.

    Thanks in advance,

    Peter Garaway
    Adobe
    Premiere Pro

  • Oliver Peters

    January 15, 2013 at 11:46 pm

    [Peter Garaway] “Could you tell me which Shared Storage solution your using. “

    This is a volume-based SAN solution using Command Soft FibreJet as the SAN management software. The SAN storage pool is partitioned into volumes. All workstations are connected to the SAN server (built into the storage chassis) via fibre channel cards and a fibre channel switch. Read/write permissions are per volume controlled by the FibreJet profiles. Each edit suite is assigned a writeable volume, with read access to all other volumes. Typically, media/renders are on the SAN volume and projects files are stored on the local internal drives. Most of the media is ProRes.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

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