Premiere Pro 2014 new patch. Project Manager is a mess, what’s still and what’s gone??

[Kevin Monahan]

Hi JonzMarz,
The Project Manager has been completely rewritten with modern code. It does a lot of things the previous Project Manager could not do. The documentation has been updated with explanations about the changes. Please read it through, and if you have questions, please let us know what they are.

https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/trim-or-copy-project.html

Thanks,
Kevin

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[John Mayer]

Thanks Kevin but I already read the help page, but all it does it to explain in other words what the action do without further explanations or tangible examples in real life situations. How do I select trimming clips that are not used? What transcode do exactly? and how can I archive lossless like before? All I see is 3 codec but they doesn’t sound safe for lossless preservation.

If someone can point me to trim unused frames and archive lossless with same codec like it was before I’d be very happy.

[Morten]

If you transcode it is possible to trim clips including handles (see right side).
I guess if you include clips that are not used, they will be trimmed to the in and out points.

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[John Mayer]

[Morten Ranmar] “If you transcode it is possible to trim clips including handles (see right side).
I guess if you include clips that are not used, they will be trimmed to the in and out points.”

That’s my guess too. However, I don’t want to transcode to another codec, something that previous versions of PP did fine with trimming option. I don’t know much about those three codecs they offer. I know little about Quicktime and the others I just don’t know what they are. Really confusing.

[Morten]

What is your footage codec?
The recommended transcoding codecs are suitable for both Mac and PC.
DnxHD is an AVID Codec. ProRes is an Apple Codec. Both are high quality, and good for archival.

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[John Mayer]

I used many codecs, so I don’t ‘have’ specific codecs. I used to use project manager to trim and PP simply took the codec as is and remove unnecessary bits, which was a blessing for me, because it preserved 100% the quality of the footage for archiving which I could reuse later for various promotional items and medias, or simply re-output the movie to another format for other purposes that wasn’t initially planned for.

[Josh Weiss]

you aren’t stuck to these 3 codecs, you can make a preset in media encoder for whatever codec you like and export it from AME and import it into PP so you can archive to whatever codec you like

[John Mayer]

[Josh Weiss] “you aren’t stuck to these 3 codecs, you can make a preset in media encoder for whatever codec you like and export it from AME and import it into PP so you can archive to whatever codec you like”

I did tried to make a custom presets. Unfortunately it still a shady practice for me. The codecs that my movies use aren’t available for transcode, and everything from AVI container has no ‘match source’ options. Even with a custom settings in AVI, it ignore completely my transcode options and do as if I check copy sequences. The only thing that was remotely close to what I did prior to patch 2014.1, is Quicktime preset with match sequences and then it trim and reduce project size, but it use quicktime as container which is difficult to handle on PCs and I’m not quite sure if it a lossy compression.

[Josh Weiss]

I’m pretty sure that cineform would be the new go-to codec for pc users. Yes, it is in an MOV wrapper, but I haven’t heard much about negative performance because of that.

[John Mayer]

[Josh Weiss] “I’m pretty sure that cineform would be the new go-to codec for pc users. Yes, it is in an MOV wrapper, but I haven’t heard much about negative performance because of that.”

Ok, Lets check this, does Quicktime with compression set to none is lossless? The codec name is None (Uncompressed RGB 8bit) I presume it mean RGB24? or 8bit per channel?

The Gopro Cineform codec seems to be lossy from the description. MatchSource seems to only match the clip size but the quality slider doesn’t inspire me to signify it as lossless.

One annoying thing about .mov is it cannot be played by much video players and don’t generate thumbnails.