Premiere CS6 roundtrip?

[Margus Voll]

Try XML ?

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[Pasha Patriki]

This is a great topic. I was literally going to start this discussion today, and here it is!
I am yet to see a succesfull conform in Resolve from Premiere’s EDL OR XML. Usually a bunch of clips don’t connect, and the ones that connect have wrong in and out points.

I have tried two different types of projects.

1). Original footage – R3D. Offline picture edit was done using Quicktime Prores dailies in FCP. I brought it into Premiere via XML and reconnected the .mov clips to original R3D files. (SIDE QUESTION – anyone knows a way to batch re-link media in Premiere, like you can do in FCP? seems like in Premiere I have to do it clip by clip).
Export EDL (or XML) with R3D clips and then import that into Resolve. Everything falls apart.

2). Same project as above – this time I used Clipfinder to reconnect the clips to original R3D files. Import Clipfinder’s converted XML in Resolve – VOILA! Worked like magic. HOWEVER! Import that XML into Premiere, works fine, and then re-export EDL or XML from Premiere, then import into Resolve – everything falls apart.

3). This project originated in Premiere. Source files – R3D raw footage. Exported EDL and “Final Cut Pro XML” – neither version assembles it correctly in Resolve. Same problems over and over.

I would like to add that I recently switched from Mac Pro to PC Resolve, and these problems existed on both computers.

So I think at this point I pretty much singled out Premiere’s EDL export as the one causing the problems.

What is the trick to properly and painlessly roundtrip between Premiere and Resolve???????

[Michael Griggs]

Check out Walt Biscardi’s Article on this…..very enlightening.

https://magazine.creativecow.net/article/a-cautionary-tale-for-the-fcp-switcher

The quick version: you’re gonna hafta export a master file and cut it up in Resolve.

[Ben Edwards]

Ouch, so there is no round-trip. Just read the article. You flatten the project and use scene extract in Resolve. There is no round trip so if you, for example, have to cut a feature to a 1 hour TV size you kind of have to redo all your grading;(.

Anyone given speed-grade a try?

Ben

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[Paul Nordin]

This is the NO1 issue for me WRT using Premiere. I really like CS6 in all other respects. For long form projects, the only success I’ve had is in PPro:
1. break the edit-lock sequence into 20min reels,
2. bake in any speed changes or other non-XML friendly effects
3. Remove any temp effects
4. FCP XML export the reels.
5. Import the XMLs into FCP,
6. In FCP clean up any import problems,
7. Generate FCP v5 XMLs for each reel.
8. Load the FCP generated XMLs into Resolve.

VERY VERY cumbersome. I had high hopes that CS6 would improve the weak XML interchange, but that was not to be. Now, I’m hoping Resolve v9 might have some mojo to help with this.

I spend a lot of time hoping. 🙁

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[Ben Edwards]

Not seem anything is the v9 improvements that seem to indicate an improvement. I have Speedgrade as part of my CS6 bundle so may have to give that a look;).

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[Sascha Haber]

As if Adobe is interested in people leaving their world…
Especially not with Speedgrade now being part of the package.

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[Ross Wilson]

I’ve got successful conforms..

I brought all my DNG files into resolve, made a quick grade and rendered them out via XML roundtrip then edited in Premier 6. Exported the XML, loaded it back into Resolve and had it all match up perfectly.

[Mike Molenda]

I’ve been able to successfully roundtrip to Resolve via EDL. I think a big hangup is that you need Reel identifiers and unique clip names, which is a problem for a lot of card-based media.

I think I was able to get it to work by modifying the Tape Name in the Premiere metadata. The integration between Premiere and SpeedGrade is obviously a lot tighter, but a Premiere/Resolve roundtrip can be done.

I’ve also had some luck roundtripping from Premiere to Color using XML and FCP as an intermediary.

Paul’s process above might be a pain for some, but reads to me like pretty standard operating procedure. It’s a good habit to remove as many variables as possible so you don’t end up with any unpleasant surprises later.

Temporarily remove effects and transitions, and break longer cuts into 20-minute “reels” before grading. Also to take the little bit of extra time to enter metadata when you’re ingesting your clips. A little extra work on the front end usually saves a lot of headaches down the pipeline.

[Rohit Gupta]

Hi Mike,

What sort of issues are you running into if you export an FCP7 XML and import into Resolve?

If you could send us your XML, and Resolve project, any screenshots, etc. at our help address – davincihelp (at) blackmagic-design.com, we’d like to sort it out for you.

Regards,
Rohit