Premiere cs6 has it improved its sharpening options

[Erik Mickelson]

I don’t know where I used them but there are some convolution algorithm sharpeners, might be in AE, I forget, but they seemed pretty nice.

Hint: Check the presets bin!

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[Dave Rogers]

Thanks for the reply but I was asking specifically about the ability to resize then apply a second sharpen

[Erik Mickelson]

Why would you not be able to do it?
There have got to be some tutorials that will get you up to speed on how to edit and for Premiere Pro. Try Lynda.com or check out Andrew Devis. Also try the beginners section on how to nest and apply filters. That should get you there.

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[Dave Rogers]

In cs5.5 If you work on a 1080 sequence, edit, grade and sharpen at 1080 then nest the sequence into a 720 sequence, resize the nested sequence to fit the 720 dimensions and apply sharpening on the 720 sequence to counter the loss of resolution, it does not apply that sharpening as a second separate sharpening on the 720 footage. It has the same effect as applying sharpening twice on the 1080 size then shrinking the sequence to 720. It’s an order of operation problem in premiere.

I am trying to find out if some of the new functionality in cs6 will allow for the correct second application of sharpening on the 720 sequence and not a simple double dose of sharpening on the 1080 footage.

[Erik Mickelson]

Ahh, yes…concatenation problems. I forget which way Premiere applies effects. Is it bottom-top…or top bottom? Hmmm, see if that makes a difference. Sometimes you need to instantiate another effect to break concatenation order. Try a Hue-Sat, or other basic effect at default settings(so nothing happens) on the nested clip then the sharpening plug. Maybe try two different sharpening plugs? One Sharpening the other Unsharp mask.

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[Walter Soyka]

[Dave Rogers] “In cs5.5 If you work on a 1080 sequence, edit, grade and sharpen at 1080 then nest the sequence into a 720 sequence, resize the nested sequence to fit the 720 dimensions and apply sharpening on the 720 sequence to counter the loss of resolution, it does not apply that sharpening as a second separate sharpening on the 720 footage. It has the same effect as applying sharpening twice on the 1080 size then shrinking the sequence to 720. It’s an order of operation problem in premiere.”

I’m not in front of my machine at the moment to confirm, but I would think that using an adjustment layer above the nested sequence would get you the order of operations you’re looking for.

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