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  • Premiere CS4- Can’t render Sharp Text

    Posted by Michal Shipman on March 13, 2010 at 10:42 am

    Here’s the problem. I have this awesome text made in photoshop and imported it into a DVCproHD 720p 24p Sequence. Unrendered the image looks fine and crisp. However when I render it it become blurry. I’ve tried these possible solutions:

    -Turned Frame Blending off
    -Messed with ALL field options
    -Maximized Rendering bit depth and render quality
    -Optimized rendering for memory
    -Imported an Apple Animation .mov from after effects using a 23.976 frame rate, same resolution(again looks clear unrendered)
    -Exported to H.264 and Quicktime for final output, still blurry.

    Any suggestions?

    Attached are the image samples.

    Jon Barrie replied 16 years, 1 month ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Vince Becquiot

    March 14, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    Hi Michal,

    Well, there is slight difference that I would mostly attribute to compression. There is also a gamma shift caused by the H.264 export.

    What are your export settings ?

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Michal Shipman

    March 14, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    I should be a little more clear. On my pictures i posted those are screen shots of the video preview. And when I photoshoped the “unrendered” and “rendered” part, those are mixed up. The VERY clear one is unrendered, the blurry one is rendered. Again, these are screenshots of the preview monitor.

  • Vince Becquiot

    March 15, 2010 at 3:12 am

    Michal,

    The preview doesn’t reflect the final render, is not full quality, and can be further degraded depending on the render format you selected in your sequence settings.

    Vince Becquiot

    Kaptis Studios
    San Francisco – Bay Area

  • Ross Tokach

    March 16, 2010 at 7:36 am

    Never use premiere for effects, titles, ect. Use After Effects then render it to a uncompressed animation clip – alpha settings selected. reimport to premier lay it down and gaze at beauty. Compression is bad, premier compresses everything it renders, the more you compress-layers, the more degredation and pixelation

    “Oop, I think my render is done!”

  • Slobodan Milivojevic

    March 17, 2010 at 11:21 am

    Hi,

    I have this problem when exporting also.

    First of all, upgrade Premiere and Media Encoder to 4.2 versions.

    If your output is progressive, your source sequence must be progressive, too, otherwise you will have this “deinterlace” effect on your output file….

    I had terrible problems, until I find out what is going on…

  • Michal Shipman

    March 17, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Well I figured out the problem. I was exporting to an H.264 using Profile MAIN and Level 3.2

    I bumped Profile to HIGH and Level 5.1. Oddly enough the framerate and resolution changed from 1280×720 to 1920×1080 and 23.976 to 59.976. Of course I changed those back to the source and exported the file, which was maxed Variable 2-Pass. The final export file size was 17x larger the standard export, (17mb to 176mb) The text was crisp as the photoshop file!

    Tested this out on a 30 minute short film. Using Main and 3.2 the file size was 3.5gb. Maxed out to HIGH and Level 5.1 the file size was 50gb!!!

    Wow!

  • Slobodan Milivojevic

    March 17, 2010 at 1:20 pm

    That is too big, then what is the point of h264.try to play with beatrates until you get best result

  • Jon Barrie

    March 17, 2010 at 10:30 pm

    Nothing compares to uncompressed visual data, like a PSD file.

    But in the real world it all comes down to a balance of size/quality.

    High quality like uncompressed will be large file sizes (High number Bitrate). However there is a point of perceived High Quality – which is determined by the viewer.

    A trained eye, like an editor, is not always the intended audience. Most things I see on TV are poorly compressed and I can’t imagine how it when to air looking like that. On the other hand my wife/brother/mother/non video friends don’t see the problems I do. Because I have a very critical and trained eye I am able to spot when something is 1 frame off, a lay person can happily watch something thats 5 frames out and not twig that something wrong.

    As technicians we tend to forget about this simple principal – “who is the intended audience, will they notice…are they able to compare the uncompressed version to the export…and is it reasonable to make the bitrate so much higher for an ounce of quality….?”.

    Keeping this in mind can save hours if not days of stress (hair) and time none of us will ever get back.

    So if you think you truly believe the audience will look at your export and feel cheated on quality as something on its own (no comparison to original) then up the bitrate. Work in small sections at a time to find the happy medium settings for size Vs quality. If you work to a 10sec workarea export and multiply the file size by 6

    10sec footage = # MB
    # MB x 6 = 1 min of ## MB
    1 min ## MB x total mins of project = Total Estimated Project Size.

    Keep in mind there are limits in File Size for DVDs/Dual Layer DVDs, BluRay Disc, and websites. People don’t what to spend time downloading video for a quality that will probably wash over them.

    Just a quick word about web/mobile. Viewers want to watch. not download. They only need to see with enough clarity to understand what’s being shown and hear everything happening. The lowest bitrate possible that holds onto the “ability to communicate” is always the best methodology to apply to web/mobile based content.

    – Jon Barrie.

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