Premiere CS3 project setting for 60P video file ?

[Ann Bens]

Your file is 30p not 60p. Its 60 x 1/2 fields which make up to 30 fps.
For project settings choose B. HDV 1080p30.
You may need to interprete the footage to progressive.
Premiere will probably interprete it as interlaced, but I am not sure.
Export settings all depend on what the end product is going to be.

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[Reko Tomo]

Hi Ann… many thanks for your respond.

Today I shot a new sample from Sony Nex-7.

original AVCHD file from camcorder shot in 50p mode info :
Video
ID : 256 (0x100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.2
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=12
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 9s 580ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 25.6 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 26.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 50.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.247
Stream size : 29.2 MiB (95%)

Using ffmpeg, convert to mpeg2 with command line :
for %%a in ("*.mts") do ffmpeg -i %%a -vcodec mpeg2video -qscale 3 -qmin 1 -intra -an -f mpegts %%~na.mpg

resulting mpeg2 file :
Video
ID : 256 (0x100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@High
Format settings, BVOP : No
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : N=1
Codec ID : 2
Duration : 9s 580ms
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 35.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 50.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.338
Stream size : 40.0 MiB (95%)

Put the converted file to CS 3 HDV 1080p25 project setting.
File properties from CS3 project window :
Type: MPEG Movie
File Size: 42.1 MB
Image Size: 1920 x 1080
Pixel Depth: 1920
Frame Rate: 50.00
Total Duration: 00:00:09:13
Average Data Rate: 4.4 MB / second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0

A. Put the footage into the timeline (it show red thin line).
When playback in CS3 monitor, it plays choppy – duration is correct.

B. So I interpret footage : “assume this frame rate 25 fps”
Put the footage back into the timeline, now the duration is double.
Playback still choppy (but slower) and thin red line still there 🙁

Export to mpeg2 HDTV 1080p 25, then I change the fps to 50 in AME video setting.
Either from step A or B, CS3 complain :
“invalid combination of framesize/framerate/profile/level. Please recheck the settings and try again”.

Export to mpeg2 HDTV 1080p 25, nothing change
From point-A : Encoded file plays oke, correct duration and not choppy but Media Player shows 5 second duration when after it reach 5 sec, the movie still play the rest.
From point-B : Encoded file plays slow, and Media Player still show wrong duration.

I have my headache :).
What did I do wrong, friend ?

Btw, Ann wrote : You may need to interprete the footage to progressive
I’m sorry as I don’t know how to do that in CS3.

Thanks once again for your kind reply, Ann.

regards.

[Ann Bens]

Your first file is hdv the second one avchd.
Two different things with two different workflows.
So which one are you going to use?

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[Reko Tomo]

Hi Ann,

I’m very sorry for the confusion.

From my first post, the Media Info is a converted file using ffmpeg from AVCHD. In ffmpeg I reduce to 1440 – hoping to match the CS3 HDV 1080i30 (60i) project setting.

Later I’ve found from the internet that HDV compliant is 50/60i not 50/60p.

In my second post, i take a new shoot (with another camera) as I posted the Media Info of the AVCHD file. Then using ffmpeg I convert this AVCHD file to mpeg2 (not HDV) without reducing to 1440.

My CS3 can not open AVCHD file, that’s why I need to convert it first to mpeg2 with ffmpeg.

Before, I’m used to shot in 50/60i mode from my either camera. Then I convert this 50/60i AVCHD file using ffmpeg to HDV 1440×1080 25fps interlaced. CS3 accept this HDV file without thin red line in the timeline window after I drop this file into the HDV 1080i25 (25i) project setting timeline.

My problem appear when I shot in 50/60p mode, because :
1. I’m not so sure to what kind of mpeg2 should I convert in ffmpeg, stay progressive (50p) ? or interlace ?

2. The question posted here is after I decided to convert as progressive mpeg2. Then left me a question :
a. what is the appropriate CS3 project setting for this progressive mpeg2 file ?

Ann told me to use HDV 1080p.
What happen the rest, I’ve explained it in my second post.

I’m sorry for causing you the trouble and confusing sentences of my English.

Thank you for your kind respond.

regards.