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  • Premiere CC to Pro Tools merged clips cannot be reconformed?

    Posted by Ian Grey on November 2, 2014 at 6:41 pm

    Hi,

    I am trying to figure out a way to export audio for the sound mix on a pro tools.

    The footage was shot with off-camera audio and the video/audio was put into a merged clip using the waveform sync feature. The merged clips were then rename for the editor so that it made more sense for him ie shot1 take 01 etc

    Now the picture is locked exporting an OMF creates new audio files with random naming convention and the new clip name is retained. There is no way for the sound mixer to reference the original audio wav file as the source metadata seems to be overwritten on export. Same issue with AAF.

    If i export an EDL the source timecodes are in samples which causes other issues if you try to use something like Titan4 to create a pro tools session. But the EDL does have the correct clip name information so the merged clips must be reading it.

    How can you export audio from Premiere CC 2014 so that the audio guys using pro tools can either reconform to original audio files and/or reference the original audio file?

    Ian

    Ryan Frias replied 8 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 3 Replies
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  • Angelo Lorenzo

    November 7, 2014 at 5:50 am

    Use encapsulated AAF. It brings in audio with minimal name mangling (usually a _# for channel number or _R or _L for stereo tracks).

    Otherwise feature request to Adobe.

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  • Patrik Forsell

    July 8, 2015 at 5:41 pm

    Hi!

    I’m en editor from Sweden and I have had the same problems with OMF/AAF-exports as Ian had. I recently edited a feature film and had major problems with my Merged Clips when trying to export for Pro Tools-users.

    So I’m trying to find a good system that makes it possible for a smooth workflow with post-audio work on Pro-Tools.

    You said that encapsulated AAF (did you mean embeded?) is an option but when you Merge Clips you can’t do an AAF-export at all. How would you recommend a sync-process where you want to export an AAF that reference to the original sound-file?

    Let’s say we only work with OMF:s. That could work even if it takes more time to export. Still, when merging clips, Premiere re-name both the sound- and the videofile and, as Ian said, Premiere creates new audio-files that Pro-Tools has to reference to without its old metadata. Even if you want to work this way, you have to have a sync-system to avoid changing the names because the metadata doesn’t follow the process. What is a possible sync-alternative where you don’t Merge (and therefore change the names) and you don’t sync manually in timelines (which takes forever and with cameras like the Alexa and RED, you don’t have audio with video so you can’t do audio-synch)?

    Regards
    // Patrik

  • Ryan Frias

    July 9, 2015 at 3:37 pm

    Hi Patrik,

    Have you tried to export an audio-only EDL for the dialog tracks? The post sound department should be able to use that to assemble the original dialogue – that assumes Premiere exports the audio’s original timecode from the merged clip.

    Best,

    Ryan

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