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  • Premiere CC crashes using .ts files

    Posted by Laddie Mawery on August 19, 2014 at 11:20 pm

    Hello all, this is a problem I’ve been having for a few months now. Whenever I load larger files into Premiere CC, using the media browser, importing, or dragging it from a folder, it crashes. The problem mainly happens while using .ts files but has occasionally happened with .mp4.

    Most of the recordings I’m trying to load are about an hour long if not longer. Shorter lengths of up to about 3 minutes load just fine.

    Here are the mediainfo details from one of the files, if that helps in any way.

    ID : 48879 (0xBEEF)
    Complete name : G:\live halo\Halo campaign.ts
    Format : MPEG-TS
    File size : 33.5 GiB
    Duration : 1h 29mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 53.9 Mbps

    Video
    ID : 68 (0x44)
    Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : High@L4.0
    Format settings, CABAC : No
    Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
    Codec ID : 27
    Duration : 1h 29mn
    Width : 1 920 pixels
    Height : 1 080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 30.000 fps
    Standard : NTSC
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Color primaries : BT.601 NTSC
    Transfer characteristics : BT.601
    Matrix coefficients : BT.601

    Audio
    ID : 69 (0x45)
    Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : LC
    Muxing mode : ADTS
    Codec ID : 15
    Duration : 1h 29mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Delay relative to video : 1ms

    Also here are my PC specs.
    Intel i7-3770k @ 3.5GHz
    8GB RAM
    Geforce GTX 770
    Windows 7

    If there is anything I missed, or anymore info that you need let me know and I will do my best to get it.

    Ericbowen replied 11 years, 8 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies
  • Ericbowen

    August 20, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    Well starting off you need more ram especially with a 770GTX card in there. GPU Acceleration uses allot of ram and 8GB is bare minimum with a very low end card. You are seriously limiting the performance with the 770GTX with such a low amount of ram. 16GB should be the least you have and really 32GB to have any chance of using the majority of that card’s capability. What Nvidia driver are you using and where are the media files stored when you import them?

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager
    support@adkvideoediting.com

  • Laddie Mawery

    August 20, 2014 at 5:50 pm

    I’ve been meaning to upgrade my RAM for a few months now, I just haven’t had the chance to do so yet. I also upgraded from a 560ti and it seemed to work just fine with that card.

    As for the driver, I currently have the latest version which is the GeForce 3470.52 driver. The files are also stored on an external hard drive. I’ll record files onto an SSD and then transfer then to the external. It is about three years old, but it loads files into Sony Vegas relatively fast.

  • Yair Bartal

    August 20, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    Please explain how GPU Acceleration uses a lot of ram and the connection to crashing when loading large files into Premiere CC.

    Thanks.

  • Ericbowen

    August 20, 2014 at 9:37 pm

    The ram is how the data transit down to and back from the GPU ram for GPU processing after the CPU decodes the data for the codec. The CPU then creates all of the buffers that shadow down to Vram and then are used for the Parallel processing. Since the different threads cannot share data from buffers already in use often times buffers are duplicated for other threads. This exponentially increasing the amount of ram used with GPU’s that have far more cores and vram available. Caching models by the application ie Premiere are based on the amount of system ram available and what the player requires for decoding. However the video driver still needs enough ram to handle the GPU acceleration based on what it requires and the player expects. The player and or video driver crashing is a common system of ram issues or not enough ram for the buffers to complete when they are expected. It’s up to the application or video driver to adjust the ram allocation to the lower amount of ram available but then your at the mercy of caching models that may not be very optimized for such low ram usage. A common precept should be atleast 2 GB of ram per thread in the CPU, 4GB of ram for the OS, and atleast equal or double the GB of vram in the video card combined.

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager
    support@adkvideoediting.com

  • Laddie Mawery

    August 20, 2014 at 11:33 pm

    What I took from that is that my graphics card uses to much RAM when trying to load the larger files, not having enough for Premiere to keep working? Is that right or did I not understand what you meant to say?

  • Ericbowen

    August 21, 2014 at 2:54 pm

    Yes that was the overall premise.

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager
    support@adkvideoediting.com

  • Laddie Mawery

    August 21, 2014 at 3:15 pm

    Alright then, Thank you for your help. I’ll work on getting more RAM when I get the chance. I’ll try to get your recommended 32Gb also, hopefully it’ll be a big improvement.

  • Ericbowen

    August 21, 2014 at 3:37 pm

    The amount of improvement will be based on the projects, media, and fx used.

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager
    support@adkvideoediting.com

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