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Premiere and 7D footage
Hey guys, longtime lurker, first time poster. I’ve pretty much been able to get solutions for all my issues with searches, but for once, I’m stuck.
I film videos using the Canon 7D and natively edit on win7 x64 with Premiere CS5 and AE CS5 for compositing. Considering the added support of HDSLR sequences in CS5, I’ve been editing without transcoding the files to another format. However, after color correcting and grading, my videos (which tend to have a lot of movement, which I know is an enemy to compression codecs like H.264), I export to youtube settings (H.264 again) and it still looks fine on the computer with minimal difference from the original. However, after uploading, the footage looks horrible. Even at 1080p playback.
Now I’m aware of youtubes horrible compression, and I’ve tried all kinds of different export settings. Literally, everything I’ve tweaked that’s possible (Maximum Render quality, took up the bit rate 10/15max, all the way down to 6/9max, etc.), but nothing seems to help the quality.
I’m also aware that the source quality of the footage should be great in order for the final output to be great… and it is, most of the shots are filmed at f1.4 with proper lighting.
The main issue I see is artifacting and banding, and this problem still exists (though not half as dramtically) even with minimal to zero color grading).
I’ve been dealing with this issue and am forced to shoot footage on my HVX200 just to avoid these problems. But the problem is, there are others who go through the same process with very crisp/sharp/clean final youtube uploads even played back at 480p. And I have indeed asked these same users through youtube for their settings, and they’ve matched up with my own workflow with these horrible muddy results.
What am I doing wrong, considering I’ve tried all the solutions that have ever been mentioned? Would it be best to transcode to an intermediate codec like Cineform in order to take up the images curves to 10bit and 4:2:2 (from my understanding)? Or will that even help in any way?
As a note: I’ve had the same artifacting banding results when editing the 7D footage transcoded to ProResHQ on Final Cut and uploaded onto youtube, which is why I’m even more confused. Also, Vimeo gives slightly better results, but very slightly.
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5 Replies
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Hi,
I shoot on a 7D, edit in CS5, & upload to Youtube & Vimeo.
I export from CS5 using the Vimeo HD preset, but I customise the export settings to square pixels @ 1024 x 576 (25fps, PAL). If you’re NTSC, adjust to whatever the equivalent is.
I can’t say I’ve ever had any issues with the 7D files on Youtube, even after editing & colour correcting in PPCS5.
Sean.
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Thx for the reply. I am working with NTSC. Do you have a sample of your footage on youtube? And do you work directly with the original H.264 files right off the 7D or do you convert? And do you use MB Looks for coloring? Thanks again.
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I’d really appreciate some more input on this matter.
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Hey man – yep – here are some samples on Vimeo.
https://vimeo.com/16958769
https://vimeo.com/17289498
https://vimeo.com/20646777I edit the 7D files directly in CS5 – no conversion beforehand. And yes, I also use MB Looks & “RGB curves” in PP for grading.
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Hi Sean,
I was curious to know what lens you used to shoot the videos you have in Vimeo?
Thanks,
Paul G.
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