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  • Premier Pro Output DVCPRO HD 720p

    Posted by Robert Lopez on April 22, 2010 at 12:46 pm

    Hello,

    Thanks in advance for any help/advice. I am starting to go nuts with this.

    Having hard time outputting short film – 10 minutes total length.

    Shot with Panasonic – using P2 – thus MFX wrapper – 720p 24pn

    Edited with CS4 Premier Pro. DVCPRO HD 720p

    SYSTEM
    Windows 7 4g Ram, Intel Core Duo, 2.93 ghz, 32 bit (not a work horse, but gets things done).

    PROBLEM
    I would simply first like to output this uncompressed, wide screen. When using the export option that takes me to the default (Adobe media encoder?) . I can’t seem to get the Output Window to show a good 16:9 or similar without some sort of black boarder either around the whole footage area or slivers of black to the right and left of the footage.

    I am further confused really, about the setting for widescreen from this footage. The footage comes into the timeline as 960×720. Which is 1.333. Can someone pls help me with that one? And what is the best setting for widescreen?

    AND what is the best setting for uncompressed video? I tried to save as an avi., an uncompressed .avi and even an uncompressed quicktime but it had a cue time of 9 hours and I still couldnt get the aspect ratio correct. Surely way too long for this length of film — granted there is a lot of AE work, but its all rendered on the PP timeline.

    What about simply outputting the way that it is in the PP time line? or the way it’s shot or something a little more straight forward.

    I am trying for uncompressed first because I am trying to get the film down to a manageable size for sending via mail, ftp, or yousend it, for review by my partner — which leads me to my next dilemma.

    WHY DONT YOU JUST COMPRESS IT STRAIGHT FROM PP?
    I have tried every possible compression combination and can’t get the film down below 100mb and most notably, I cant get the aspect ration right.

    The most sensible setting I have tried and worked in the past are:

    Quicktime — using the H.264
    720 x 480 — even tried using smaller
    I’ve tried everything on the FR from 29 down to 15
    Field Type = Progressive
    Aspect == nothing works, again, I want wide screen, but I keep getting black boarders.
    Bit Rate — I tried everything from 1000 to 5000.

    The result is a huge file with wrong aspect ratio —-

    (I have tried heaps of other setting combinations as well).

    (ultimately would be happy with a simple 480 size medium res version to send away).

    AND —

    I have other footage that I imported into my timeline from a DVD, treated it with AE and its all rendered nicely, when I play it in PP looks great. But whenever the project is in the export window and I scrub the output to check the settings, the area where that footage is is represented by what I can best describe as a colorbar, that is only blue and white and very soft in color.

    I am desperate for help on all or a small part of these questions. Thanks so much for listening!.

    Bob

    Danny Winn replied 16 years ago 2 Members · 6 Replies
  • 6 Replies
  • Danny Winn

    April 22, 2010 at 1:35 pm

    First off, You really need to give up the idea of outputing any HD project as non compressed, the file for a 10 minute HD non compressed project would probably end up being like 50 to 60 gigs and most likely be unplayable.

    I would use the output preset of “HDTV 720p 24” with the format being MPEG2.

    Remember, all HD is “Widescreen” 16:9.

    I use MPEG2 on all my HD stuff and it is beautifull.

    Try those setting and let us know what happens.

  • Robert Lopez

    April 22, 2010 at 1:52 pm

    Doctor Danny,

    Thanks for the quick reply. Noted: uncompressed – bad idea.

    I entered your MPEG2 settings in, all looked pretty good. Came out to be 750 MB which is expected.

    I didn’t process it because I am still having the problem with this other footage in the timeline. I thought maybe it was missing from the project bin, or unlinked. But seems on there. I am opening now the original sequence that uses that footage and see if it exports from there.

    Will keep you posted… thanks again! Any ideas on getting your MPEG 2 down to a file that can me sent via the web?

    Cheers ,,

    BOB

  • Robert Lopez

    April 22, 2010 at 2:39 pm

    This in response to my problem with the DVD footage and colorbar.

    I think I figured it out. It turns out the footage was indeed not linked.

    It was linked in the Master Time line, and it was linked in the subsequence that I created it it before importing it into the Master sequence, so in both of those it previewed just fine. BUT, it WASN’T linked correctly in the AE timeline I used to dynamic link it in the sub-sequence. Odd though, that it wasn’t linked correctly in AE and still rendered and played correctly in PP.

    After I linked it correctly, the sub-sequence asked me to render, good sign. That rendered, I closed it and opened the Master Sequence, which too asked me to render, good sign. It’s rendering now, I am expecting that it will now show up in the export window.

    I will try Danny’s suggestion on the MPEG2 setting and work from there for my smaller size video.

    Thanks for reading— tips are still very much welcome on getting it small and nice. Again, the MPEG2 will be around 720 Mb

  • Danny Winn

    April 22, 2010 at 7:09 pm

    Hey Robert,

    glad to here it’s working somewhat, as far as emailing, I would suggest using a free file sending program like filezilla. I haven’t used it a lot but I know you can send large files with it.

    Google filezilla and find it, there are others too you can search for what ever suites your needs.

    NOTE: It would be difficult to keep your project HD with a nice high quality using anything but the mpeg2 IMO. But you might try the WMV format though, they come out pretty decent and they are alot smaller than MPEG2. Use the same HDTV 720p 24 with the WMV and see what happens.

    Let us know man.

  • Robert Lopez

    April 26, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    Hey Danny,

    Thanks again for the attention.. The MPG2 worked pretty darn good… BUT,, there were some glitches… unexplainable little hicups that I can see in the time line, fractions of a second… there are maybe 4 of them over ten minutes in random spots. any idea?

    Also, and maybe this has something to do with it, I shot the film 720pn …… when the settings for exporting it came about I had the choice of drop frame or no drop frame… I wasnt sure which to pick..

    Any advice on that front?

    Thanks so much

  • Danny Winn

    April 26, 2010 at 6:54 pm

    I believe that the drop and non drop pertains to interlaced footage, you need to set it to “Progressive” if it is not already.

    If you still have the drop non drop option when in progressive, then I would try outputing one of each and see which works best.

    I don’t ever remember messing with that option so I probably always use what ever the default is when you select the HDTV 720p preset.

    Let me know.

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