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Precision Editor
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I don’t use it nearly as much as I did the equivalent (what was it called?) in Legacy.
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[Craig Alan] “Like I said, I really just use it to see the handles and then go back to …. non precision?”
You can actually use clip skimming (separate from timeline skimming) to view clip handles frame by frame.
Clip skim to the end of a clip, then use the arrows to move frame by frame. You will see the clip skimmer move beyond the boundary of the range out in the timeline. Add shift to the arrows and you move 10 frames at a time.
Looks like this (works on any clip anywhere, not just primary):
As far as the precision editor, I do think it helps to visualize how trimming works in FCPX, but once it;s understood, it seems unnecessary. I would much prefer the two-up (or more) view with kb trimming.
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Tracks?
I must say that it was a bit tricky in legacy as well. And maybe full time editors got past it but lots of times audio would get out of sync. I do like having connection points. But maybe that’s just training wheels.
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Jeremy, I played with this but don’t yet find it useful. Can’t see the handles, don’t see 2-up. And maybe you can help with this … If I use red clip skimmer to go to a frame in the handle, how do I set the new out point? I can move the edit point using the comma period keys dragging it to the red skimmer but this is kind tedious.
It does seem to have some potential in that I can move over an adjacent clip but view the handle instead. But it seems like about 1/3 of the visual references that I need.
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[Craig Alan] “If I use red clip skimmer to go to a frame in the handle, how do I set the new out point?”
I’m assuming you mean when in the PE? Simple click on the frame? Or good ol’ ⇧X?
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “For example, you can’t work with split-edits in the chicklet view. You can’t work with split-edits unless you expand audio using one of the other views. So, if you typically work with small timeline “tracks” (the chicklet view), then it takes 2 steps before you can even perform a split edit.”
I personally find that display mode rather counter intuitive (i.e. Avid-like) and never use it, so it’s not an issue I’ve ever run into. Never even occurred to me that you couldn’t expand the audio in that case. 😀
But even if, for whatever reason, I wanted/needed that tiny size for editing, I’d use one of the first three display options and simply move the clip height slider all the way to the left. Done.
I’m fairly sure the few vertical pixels more wouldn’t exactly bother me much. But maybe that’s just me.
Either way I simply use the shift-bracket shortcuts for a quick audio edit-point selection and extend the edit as needed. Very quick, very easy.
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “I personally find that display mode rather counter intuitive (i.e. Avid-like) and never use it, so it’s not an issue I’ve ever run into. Never even occurred to me that you couldn’t expand the audio in that case. :D”
Depending on the machine and the size of the project/timeline, it can affect performance. This view is the least impactful on overall performance.
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[Oliver Peters] “Depending on the machine and the size of the project/timeline, it can affect performance.”
Currently editing a(n optimized, of course) 5K RED, 2×2 hour project off a TBo RAID on an older MBP and can’t say I’m in any way disappointed by the performance. Quite the opposite actually. YMMV, sure.
Would e.g. scrolling be a little faster here or there with the “chicklet” option? Probably. But it would also drive me absolutely nuts to not know what I’m on in the timeline at a glance and slow me down considerably more, without question. No idea why anyone (not stuck in the 90’s) would prefer working that way. I couldn’t even understand it with legacy FCP where you at least had ONE thumbnail which was well worth the (actual) slow down for me. Getting entire filmstrips with no performance hit worth mentioning are a huge boon for me, if not a dream come true. Especially when doing things like slides… brilliant.
Something you wouldn’t even want to consider with most (all?) other NLEs, I know. Oh well.
But hey… to each his own as they say.
– RK
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[Robin S. Kurz] “But it would also drive me absolutely nuts to not know what I’m on in the timeline at a glance and slow me down considerably more, “
And the other views really tell you that? They don’t for me, because it’s not really an accurate frame-by-frame representation. For editing waveforms, yes, but for picture, it doesn’t seem necessary for a lot of folks. But that’s all a matter of choice. The issue is that Apple has chosen to restrict certain functions of the timeline in that view for no reason that’s been explained.
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[Robin S. Kurz] “‘m assuming you mean when in the PE?”
I meant the clip skimmer, not PE. And shift x does work.
When I tested it maybe i had gone past the handle thus it did not respond. Again if they would add two-up while using the keyboard it would be helpful.
It doesn’t seem like anyone here finds the PE useful or needed anyway (I like seeing the handles and it’s a quick keyboard shortcut on and off to take a quick look). But I’m not a skilled touch type editor. Though I do like keyboard commands over mousing.
So what I’d like to know is the most efficient way to create split edits?
Possibilities: expand audio/video (select adjacent clips, control-s), use shift brackets, arrow keys, and shift x to set the audio I and O but 2 up is not displayed. Create a split edit by expanding audio/video of adjacent clips and then using the trim tool/mouse to do a roll edit of the audio only. Although now the two up display shows up in the viewer, it doesn’t display the visual.So what I find myself doing is playing the video, setting a marker where i want the split edit to be and then expanding both clip’s audio/video and then using the mouse and trim tool to roll edit the audio to the marker.
Or I can skim to the point where I want the split edit and shift x
It really should be a simple command, no? Select two adjacent clips, audio could be expanded or not. With the skimmer or playhead where you want the split edit to be, press a command for a split edit. Done. Why not?
I’m asking not telling even though this is the debate forum.
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