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Pr CS4.0 vs CS4.2 render quality got worse or… ???
Hi everyone,
I just found an issue with the newest patch for CS4. I alraedy tried to ask this on Adobe Forum – no luck and this forum helped me in the past few times so i hope this time as well 🙂
I was doing some project, the source file was HDV but i had to export it to DV so i did. Used Pr4.0, scaled the files down, rendered with Microsoft AVI / PAL DV and it was great.
Next I installed the 4.2 update, loaded same project – wanted to see if the render will be any faster etc. I didn’t see any difference BUT…
The quality of the *.avi file is now lower then it was on the 4.0 !!! It’s like less sharp/clear then it was. It’s especially visible on the text (using Premiere inbuilt Titler). On the 4.0 was clear and sharp now is little blurry. Now it looks like the camera was a bit out of focus ! How is that possible ???
(using just Pr, no matrox or custom plugins)
specs:
Win 7 x64 // 4GB // GF260 GTX // GA-P55-UD4
I also tried using option “render at maximum quality” but it just makes it even worse (especially for the text)
Pls help :/
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11 Replies
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Have you verified that all the settings for the encode were identical? I wonder if the update ended up flipping a proverbial switch someplace?
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions, -
I still do not like Premiere’s scaling down hdv to sd but 4.2 is definitely better than 4.0 or 4.1.
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Yes, I did try the “use maximum render quality”. The picture was a bit better , but for my taste a bit oversharped – like in Photoshop when you do sharpen to many times) but the text from the titler was a complete failure on this setting.
Plus when You do AVI PAL/NTSC you cannot change things in settings, just fields.
This is weird, 4.2 shouldn’t change anything but it did.
I know that Pr has problems with HDV/DV conversion but i was ok with 4.0 and now it’s……
And now I have to projects coming and both will need similar procedure and I don’t want to go back to 4.0 but I’m afraid I will have to :/
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Did anything weird happen to the pixel aspect values anywhere in any of the project or encode settings?
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions, -
No, pixel aspect is the same all settings are the same but the output qulity is worse :/
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Odd.
Are you using an existing ME job queue?
Does it appear that interlacing is messed up? …or is it overall just soft? The aspect ratio of the image is still visibly correct?
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions, -
Hi!
I think that your problem is that U haven’t updated MEdia Encoder to version 4.2, whitch solves this problems with bad rendering output.
I have that problems also with output from Premiere!Cheers!
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No, i did update to both Pr and AME to 4.2 so its not that :/
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Well,
lets try few things:
1. If your material is upper field, export it as upper filed, because if U put progressive, your material will be deinterlaced, so it will use some quality.
2. Can U try to use UNCOMPRRESSED AVI, just to see is it maybe DV artefacts, because on RED color in DV U will have very jagged edges? IS your text RED?
3. Finally, open DV 16:9 sequence, not HDV. PLace clips in timeline, right click on clips ant put SCALE TO FRAME SIZE. THen try to export and see if there is some difference.
I hope this may help U…….My expiriance is that in 4.2 updates, outputs are just great!
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The files I’m working with are:
Type: MPEG Movie
File Size: 3,6 GB
Image Size: 1440 x 1080
Pixel Depth: 32
Frame Rate: 25,00
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz – compressed – Stereo
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz – 32 bit floating point – Stereo
Total Duration: 00:19:52:12
Average Data Rate: 3,1 MB / second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1,3333What i did – opened new DV 4:3 comp. Scale down to match the window size (yes with black “frames” on top and bottom of the screen like dvd things. It should have them.)
Render to PAL DV 4:3 LOWER FIELDS.
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