PPro2 sucking up memory then crashing

[Timothy Eaton]

One more thought. I’m assuming that since Tim Kolb and Anareev and the other guys who have some contact with Adobe aren’t talking about betas that address this memory issue, they haven’t been given any betas. Or is it just that the non disclosure agreements are very tight and Tim and Anareev are honorable guys? I hope it’s the latter, because development cycles being what they are, if a solution is not already in beta testing, we probably can’t wait the cycle out.

[Pat Mcgowan]

tclark, once again you’ve missed the point because you want to argue about the parallels I used to make the point.

What is so outrageous about expecting (demanding) the product to work in a real world, high pressure production environment? The naked truth is that PPro is not reliable enough and has too many problems at present to qualify as a “best of breed” tool for business use (ie. billable time). Sure, if you never have client contact or you’re a hobbiest or educator, you can afford to wait for restarts, reboots, rebuilds of lost projects etc.. But we can’t.

Adobe must take heed and muster all resources to make this product work 99% of the time. They must also fix the things that make it amateurish.

Is this an unreasonable expectation or request. Go to the Adobe site and read their product claims. Can Adobe defend those claims? Every day? With clients breathing down the editor’s neck?

[Ron Moody]

Recently I made the leap to the Mac and FCP. It was Vista that made me jump ship, I was afraid that Adobe would force the issue like they did when they moved from Premiere 6.5 to Pro.

The first surprise was when I found that you could not output more that about 8 minutes of video from the timeline to AVI. It’s a known issue with Quicktime that I located in Apple’s support info.

I’m trying to output Quicktime now then use an external conversion utility. That’s brought it’s own set of problems but we’ll see how that works out.

My thought though was that I would take the leap to the Mac since its OS seems vastly superior to anything Microsoft is likely to accomplish… ever. There have been a couple of unexpected surprises along the way.

First, not long after I took the leap, Adobe announced their intentions to release PPro on the Mac. I’ve been using Premiere since version 3 or so with the Miro DC30 card. The titler no longer crashes like it used to, and since I use it for (mostly) simple 28m30s projects, it (mostly) works for me. I look forward to the same quick throughput on the Mac as I’ve come to appreciate on the PC.

Second, LiveType and Motion are great. Neither are FCP, but neither is FCP LiveType and Motion. You can really turn something out quickly that’s attractive and move on to other projects. I’m looking forward to having access to all three programs on the same platform. It’s an asset that I didn’t anticipate, but now that it’s within reach, I’m looking forward to it.

Third, while I appreciate Adobe’s porting the suite to the Mac, I hope they don’t do it blindly. Encore for example is trash. It’s better than it used to be but for me to sit and wait on a program to do similar things that are pretty much instant in Premiere is unacceptable in every way. I’ve not gotten to the DVD app in the FCP suite yet but I understant it’s great. I hope Adobe sees them as competition and reworks Encore from the ground up.

Fourth, Audition has been one of the great surprises in the suite. It’s strong, stable, and very fast. I can turn things out in minutes that elsewhere take hours. I’m greatly saddened that Adobe has both chosen to not include it in the suite, AND not port it to the Mac. It fills it’s role in the suite as well as After Effects, Photoshop, and Illustrator. Notice that I did not include Premiere in that trio. I don’t think Premiere is as strong in its sphere of influence as those three programs are in theirs (four if you include Audition).

Random thoughts, but perhaps some will stir discussion in this thread.

Ron from Maui

[Ron Moody]

Sorry for the typo. I said that LiveType and Motion are great but are not FCP, I meant that neither are AFX (After Effects). My thought was that while you can do pretty much everything in After Effects that you could in Live Type or Motion, by the time you’ve finished in AfterEffects, you would have already finished the next project in FinalCut/LiveType/Motion. You can do more in AFX but you can do really well a LOT faster in LiveType/Motion.

Again, sorry for the typo.
ron from maui