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  • PPro Titler scroll and 24p

    Posted by James Goodman on November 1, 2006 at 5:40 am

    I am making a credit scroll avi for a friend to use in his 24p (23.976) project (he uses FCP). I set my PPro 2.0 setting to DV 24p, 16×9 and happily made a credit roll. I have firewire to my Sony DSR-25 and a JVC monitor connected to it via S-Video.

    The scroll stutters or jitters on my DSR-25 screen and my JVC monitor

    I have not worked in 24p before and assume this is the problem

    Any comments or suggestions for a smooth credit roll in 24p environment ?

    James Goodman replied 19 years, 6 months ago 2 Members · 2 Replies
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  • Troy Murison

    November 1, 2006 at 5:45 pm

    So if you’re watching it through a NTSC deck on a NTSC monitor this isn’t
    suprising. The stuttering is caused by the software trying to send out
    29.97 frame rate material from a 23.98 source. NTSC is 29.97 only. So to
    get the effect of the roll playing correctly, you need to convert the roll
    to 29.97 by placing 3:2 pulldown into it. PPro can’t do this. AE can.

    If you have AE, open your 24p roll, drag the clip to the ‘create new
    comp’ button, then add that comp to the render que. In the render settings,
    turn on field rendering (lower field first for NTSC DV), then choose a 3:2
    pulldown cadence (which one doesn’t matter for this exercise). Set your
    output settings to NTSC DV and render. Then take this new 29.97 fps clip
    into PPro and play it. It should look a whole lot better. It won’t look
    perfect however. If the final product is going to be a NTSC deliverable,
    you may want to create two rolls- one for the 24p master and one for NTSC.
    This will give the best result and is a very common way of doing this. Of
    course, it complicates the mastering process for the NTSC master where
    there will need to be a edit made to the tape (if that’s the final master format)
    to insert the 29.97 rendered credits. This is due to the fact that FCP
    isn’t going to let you have a 24 frame timeline and put a 29.97 clip in it
    and have it play properly. So play it out to tape leaving a hole or placeholder
    for the credit roll, then make a insert edit with the 29.97 NTSC credits to
    cover that hole. I hope that makes sense.

    -Troy Murison
    Seattle, WA

  • James Goodman

    November 2, 2006 at 7:18 am

    Thanks Troy
    It makes sense now
    what was throwing me was that his edited X100B 24p footage played on the DVD fine

    I exported my credit roll from my 24 PPro and brought it in a standard ntsc PPro project then set the time I wanted and exported it as a uncompressed avi.
    Imported into Encore and transcoded it then just added to main video time line so it plays seamlessly after main video is finished as though its all one file. Looks great.

    I also have AE but this was quick fix after your valuable advice

    Thanks again

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