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PPro Plugins/Filters needed: Upscaling, Deinterlacing, Chroma upsampling, Legalizing
Hey guys.
As I am working with PPro a lot recently I grew kind of a wishlist with extra features.
I dunno why it is kind of hard to find solutions for these issues as I guess quite many have the same desires.Please let me know if you have tried any plugins of the following kind and which level of quality I could expect from those:
– UPSCALING: This is for scaling of interlaced footage with interlaced output. Not SD–>HD upscaling, but removing SD letterbox to anamorph, for ex. As you might know PPro cannot handle interlaced scaling, so this is desperately needed. I tried “uprez” from the Image Restoration bundle from Borix FX. Not too bad bad not too god either. Next guess would be the Magic Bullets Instant HD. Any other propositions?
– DEINTERLACING: Well, situation worse here. I tried the “Fieldskit” thing- might be useable for uncritical footage but I need a robust solution here, also for bad material.
– CHROMA UPSAMPLING: PPro represents MPG2 clips with bad chroma upsampling, so interlacing produces bad artifacts in highly saturated areas. See another thread here for details. I read a lot about FIR filtering etc. but did not find a plugin for PPro yet.
– LEGALIZER: I found out that using the “Levels” filter, this one autmatically constrains Luma and (matrixed to) RGB values to the legal range. Nevertheless I am missing a filter with kind of a better control. Tried for ex. the “compliance suite” from eyeheight for Final Cut Pro. Not too bad but also not very sophisticated. And NOT for Premiere Pro. Vidcheck will release “VidApp”, but only later this year, starting with FCP and Avid.
So- thanx for your attention, any help very appreciated!
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7 Replies
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What version of Premiere Pro are you using?
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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Hi Tim,
CS6 with latest update.
Cheers,
KH -
I followed your link to the MPEG chroma issue… I think I’m a little confused on that as the “show both fields” thing in Premiere Pro should only affect paused frames in the interface (which it appears is where the screen grabs on the Adobe forum are taken from)…it shouldn’t affect the SDI output as far as I know unless there is some strange hardware interaction… That said, I don’t work in PAL and I can’t recall the last time I used interlaced material for anything…
I use Red Giant’s plugin “instant HD” for uprez’ing…of course scaling up interlaced is usually an issue for obvious reasons, so even a sophisticated hardware solution will typically attempt to de-interlace first…
For de-interlacing, I’m not sure where to steer you…I de-interlace HD material I get the has to be integrated into a progressive sequence with the built in option, and don’t really see anything I would define as being substandard…but again, it’s not SD PAL I’m working with so I guess it’s possible something functions differently…
TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,Adobe Certified Instructor
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For what it’s worth, I’ve used Virtualdub’s deinterlacing filter with great success. Of course that’s outside of Premiere, but it is free.
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Hey Tim,
thanks very much for your answer.– I am sure the chroma thing is not a display bug. I monitor via SDI, compared it to other similar files, rendered the stuff, playback, etc.
– I actually tried the Instant HD, compared to the Boris FX “Uprez” it loses, I´d say..
– deinterlacing with “always deinterlace” I cannot use. Introduces heavy aliasing, I think it just discards one field, then interpolates. Sometimes useable, in an interlaced sequence is “flicker removal” but this can cause bad moires or patterns and is a bit soft.
Cheers,
KH -
Hi Al,
yeah, I always look over with envy to all the open source tools, avisynth, ffmpeg, etc..Problem is that our input quite often is formats like IMX in .mxf, QT Prores, XDCam, etc. so PPro helps a lot in eating all this and displaying it via SDI.
Nevertheless if I find some time I will at least try and see what the quality is like. From all I read it must be quite good.
Cheers,
KH -
Ah, yeah, well there’s a pretty vibrant contributor community, so maybe one day that stuff will get supported. Good luck!
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