PPro offers what BIG advantages over X?

[Oliver Peters]

[Charlie Austin] “Well, since I don’t currently need to use any of the other stuff, I figured it’s not worth the $360 a year.”

Hmm… I presume that means you are using older versions of Photoshop and After Effects. Both are essential in the work I do. Although you can definitely get by with older copies of Photoshop, that doesn’t seem to be the case with AE. That’s an app where I have to do a lot of exchange and most of the diehard AE guys are current, which means you can’t interchange older projects more than a couple of versions old.

– Oliver

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[Charlie Austin]

[Oliver Peters] “It seems to work fine when I’ve used it, but that’s only been with loose masks.”

It does work OK for stuff like that, but trying to track “difficult” objects isn’t very accurate in this version.

[Oliver Peters] “Of course, you also have Mocha AE and AE’s own tracker as part of the CC package.
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True. I don’t need to do this a lot in Pr so I’ll just do it in X and export a comp if it comes up. I always have X open with a copy of the Pr project anyway since it’s easier for me to find stuff (generally SFX, but filmstrip view for long feature sources comes in handy too) in X and then relocate it in Pr. Charlie = cheap. 🙂

[Oliver Peters] “This gets us back to the need for a “send to Motion” option from inside FCP X.”

Yes, it does. 🙂

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[Charlie Austin]

[Oliver Peters] “Hmm… I presume that means you are using older versions of Photoshop and After Effects. Both are essential in the work I do.”

When I use them, yes. CS6. Full disclosure though, we have a dedicated Graphics dept/guy who of, course, does have the latest greatest. In X/Motion, I can pretty much whip up whatever I need which may or may not get redone in AE etc. . In Pr and (still) FCP 7, I just temp stuff and replace it with what he does. Lazy? You bet! 😉

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[Dennis Radeke]

[Charlie Austin] “The odd thing, assuming it’s using bits of code from AE, is that the tracking isn’t really very good right now.”

Charlie, in general if you’re creating the mask to track, you want to make the mask the same or smaller than the object – cut on or just inside the area you want to track. The reason is that if you go wide of the selection, the tracker thinks you want to track that area too. For example, if you’re tracking a person in the foreground, cut the mask small and use the expansion to get the right size. If you track outside the person, you’re tracking background content which won’t jive.

In the confusing worlds of trackers, there are point, planar, 2d, 3d trackers and probably a couple more I’ve never heard of… 😉

Hope this makes sense.
Dennis – Adobe Guy

[Charlie Austin]

[Dennis Radeke] “In the confusing worlds of trackers, there are point, planar, 2d, 3d trackers and probably a couple more I’ve never heard of… 😉

Hope this makes sense.”

Thanks Dennis, it makes sense. And to be fair, by “not very good” I was really comparing it to how AE (and Slice-X) works. It is a nice built in feature, guess I’m just spoiled by Mocha-powered results. 🙂

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[Herb Sevush]

[tony west] ” I just want to clarify to Herb because he asked a very specific question.”

Well, to make it more specific, since you can’t access the spectral analyzer function from within X what exactly is the process – I’m imagining it’s open RX4, then load the video clip with the audio your working on, then find the part that needs fixing, make the fix, save the changed file, then reopen in X and the change is made. Is that it?

Herb Sevush
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[Timothy Auld]

Markers are important to me and in my opinion they are barely functional in Legend, X, or Premiere. If there is one area when Avid still wins hands down, markers are it.

Tim

[Timothy Auld]

Audition does some pretty amazing things. If you work a lot with audio you owe it to yourself to check it out.

Tim

[Dennis Radeke]

[TImothy Auld] “Markers are important to me and in my opinion they are barely functional in Legend, X, or Premiere. If there is one area when Avid still wins hands down, markers are it.”

Can you tell me what is lacking in markers for Premiere Pro and/or what it is that Avid does so well in this area?

For reference, here is a page describing Premiere Pro’s marker capabilities: Markers

Thanks,
Dennis

[Tony West]

[Herb Sevush] “Well, to make it more specific, since you can’t access the spectral analyzer function from within X what exactly is the process – I’m imagining it’s open RX4, then load the video clip with the audio your working on, then find the part that needs fixing, make the fix, save the changed file, then reopen in X and the change is made. Is that it?
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Yes that’s pretty much it. I like to stay organized with all these clips I have in my doc so I have a folder called RX Work that I export it to out of X. When I’m done in RX I export that to that folder with it’s name “fixed”. Bring that back into X tagged.

It’s not a big deal to me because I remember how I used to do it. Trying find all these little noises and replace them with room tone if somebody did their job in the field and gave it to me.

The majority of the work I do with RX is cleaning up background noise and I use that filter right in X, which you could do with Prp also, but if you had audition I don’t think you would need to buy RX. The Declipper filter is amazing also that I use right in X.

For me Herb, I want the power of audition but I want to use X so RX gives me what I’m looking for.