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PPro offers what BIG advantages over X?
One client seems to be moving to PPro from Legacy. As much of my work for that client is “independent” workflow, I’m still at liberty to choose my tools, but I’m planning on investing some time into the current state of PPro, to cover the bases.
Going into that, I’m wondering if those who are fully conversant in both tools could elaborate on some of strengths of PPro vs X. I think it might help focus my efforts in PPro if I know the 411 from others on what things might make PPro a better choice for certain tasks. Don’t need super details, a high level bullet list would be great.
Comments can disregard any aspect of “it’s good to know multiple editors so as to be more marketable in the freelance world”…. this is the only instance where I *might* need to conform to another workflow – all my work since 2003 has been 100% internal post workflow. (And loving it, lol.)
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Ability to export AAF for ProTools without the need for a 3rd party app. (XtoPro)
Ability to import XML files from FCP Legacy projects and bring in full projects without the need of a third party app. (FCX only does this with iMovie…need 7toX in order to bring FCP 7 into FCX)
Tracks (sorry, being snarky)
Working native with pretty much any video format. FCX does work native with some…a fair amount, but still prefers to “optimize.” Although it does this in the background. But FCX’s offline to online (proxy to full res) workflow is by far slicker. Also, FCX Multicam is superior to Premiere.
Adobe is PC or Mac…not tied to one OS and computer.
I believe that Premiere can leverage GPU (graphic) better…but you do need to buy specific cards in order for that to happen.
Premiere does require more in order to edit native formats…it does require GOBS of RAM, fast processors, and a good GPU for smooth performance. The benefit of converting to ProRes (like FCX does when it optimizes…in the background) is that you can run it on a less powerful system.
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In all due respect Shane, nothing in that list is a particular deal breaker. Add another $200 in purchases (x2Pro, 7toX, Xto7) and you can run all these apps simultaneously on all the macs you own, not just two machines, forever.
As far as Premiere importing things from other NLE’s, one of our clients switched to Premiere for internal deliveries and has had several hiccups. Apparently using MP3 audio vs Wav audio has caused problems for mixers, and then there’s some big issue with bringing in FCP XML, (not x, just regular FCP) that has basically forced them to tell all vendors to completely stop using FCP7 when editing for them. It has been quite frustrating for them.
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Big advantages? meh… One is if you use AE heavily. Dynamic Linking is pretty nice.
Also, it has a mixer if you care about that.
FWIW, bringing FCP 7 projects into Pr is kind of a pain audio-wise as all interleaved stereo ends up as split mono as it is in 7. But Pr doesn’t make it easy to pair it up other than match back, change audio config in the master, and overcut. No OPT-L analog. Working with split mono “stereo” tracks in Pr is no fun. And by no fun, I mean awful. Going to X via 7toX usually has much better results honestly.
Built in AAF from Pr is nice, though X2Pro creates much nicer PT sessions using Roles.
The Pr UI sometimes feels a little “snappier” as it doesn’t redraw “live” when you move clips around just like 7, MC etc.
ummm… I dunno, what else? Built in tracked masks, though Slice X crushes it. Basically it does things out of the box that you’d have to spend a couple hundred bucks or so to do (better) in X via 3’rd parties.
I think the biggest advantage it has is that it’s easy to jump into it from 7, at least on the surface…
(begin snark). But it has tracks, which suck. 😉 (end snark)
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Money saved can go to other equipment, such as a new camera or to other software. Saving up for Fusion Studio when it comes out for Mac OS X, no subscription required! 😉
Going to use the savings for a nice lens set and a shiny Mac Pro as well.
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I know…just saying. He asked about differences.
OH…one BIG plus in the FCX column. You buy it once, for $299. And every single update after is free. Buy it once, own it. Premiere? Cannot buy…subscription only. Basically you subscribe to it like cable. And if you stop paying to use it, it stops working. That is a BIG negative in my book.
Avid does this better. Pay yearly and obtain access to all updates. Stop paying, and you still can use the one you have, forever.
But Apple beats that. $299 once…and that’s it.
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Totally. I think even a year ago this thread would have been more passionate. Reality is every NLE has a few caveats these days. It always comes down to what you’re most comfortable with or what you can use without being distracted by how you’re using it.
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“Working with mono stereo tracks is no fun In Pr Pro”
Easily solved…in audio preferences you can chose to import mono stereo clips as split track mono….done
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[Andy Field] “Easily solved…in audio preferences you can chose to import mono stereo clips as split track mono….done”
Not sure if that works when importing FCP 7 XML does it? I’ve got no problems importing audio into an existing project. Importing fcp 7 xml results in a bit of a mess…
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