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PPro CS6 dynamic link?
Posted by Dave Fleming on August 16, 2012 at 12:44 pmOK, so we were all told in the CS6 road show that dynamic link was “greatly improved” and working seamlessly. I, for one, completely gave up using it in CS5.5 because it was clunky and unpredictable.
Well, now I have a project that was really made for DL–a lot of back and forth with After Effects for compositing and color correction, and quick changes needed.
In AE, I RAM previewed everything, and in PPro I rendered and made preview files for all the linked material.
Today, I began the second day of work on this project, only to find out I have to re-render everything again in PPro! I just don’t understand how this is supposed to work. Why doesn’t PPro see the preview files that were rendered yesterday?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
Dave
Tom Daigon replied 13 years, 8 months ago 2 Members · 17 Replies -
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Tom Daigon
August 16, 2012 at 1:45 pmThat is not good. I have used CS6 extensively with DL and haven’t bumped into this behavior.
Please report this here.
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
And if you get no answers at this forum, Call Adobe Support and ask to escalate to Vinay, who is a great trouble shooter.
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Dave Fleming
August 16, 2012 at 2:44 pmThanks Tom, that’s what I did (submit the bug report).
Will will call tomorrow if this persists.
Dave
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Tom Daigon
August 16, 2012 at 3:40 pmGood luck. I hope you resolve it soon!
Tom Daigon
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Dave Fleming
August 17, 2012 at 3:09 pm
Tom-our station group has an Adobe support rep named Chad Baker and I have sent him the following by email:Here are a few further observations I’ve had over the past 24 hours:
I have no doubt that something isn’t right.
What I did was simply right-click a clip, and chose Replace with After Effects Composition. I already have a project open in AE, so it opens in that project. Then, I re-name the linked clip to something that makes sense and proceed with my compositing. I do a RAM preview (0 key) in AE when I’m done and save my work. I don’t export/import anything. When I go back into PPro, the linked comp appears with a red bar and won’t playback without stuttering. Frankly, I thought I had seen in the road show demo that the files were just being RAM previewed in AE and then played back in PPro without any rendering. I re-name the linked comp to the same name I had given it in AE and then render the file in PPro so I can playback cleanly.
Well, if that inconvenience weren’t bad enough, when I close both programs and relaunch PPro only, the files once again appear with a red bar and need to be rendered. I can’t understand why PPro doesn’t remember the previously rendered file.
I’ve attached a screen shot of my Media and Disk Cache preferences in AE. I think that is set up correctly, with the Media Cache set to D:\ which is my RAID drive and the Disk Cache set to F:\ which is a 2TB external e-sata drive. But clearly, something is wrong in the setup, because I don’t have clear communication in the dynamic linking. Any help is appreciated! Here are my system specs:
Dell Precision T7500 running Windows 7 Pro
Xeon X5650@2.67GHz 2.66GHz (2 processors)
24GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro 5000Last observation: I hope!
OK, the client was just here to approve all six spots and everything went well, thank God! But, the client had two small changes. One was in a lower third graphic I had built in AE with some text. I just went into AE, changed the text on the lower third, did a RAM preview, saved my work, went back to Premiere, and EVERYTHING WAS UNRENDERED! Not just the little 7 second clip I had modified, but every linked comp in each of the six sequences (which had nothing in common with the clip I modified) needed to be rendered again.
This is a huge waste of my time and needs to be addressed—thanks for your help in advance…
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Tom Daigon
August 17, 2012 at 4:51 pm[Dave Fleming] ”
What I did was simply right-click a clip, and chose Replace with After Effects Composition. I already have a project open in AE, so it opens in that project. Then, I re-name the linked clip to something that makes sense and proceed with my compositing. I do a RAM preview (0 key) in AE when I’m done and save my work. I don’t export/import anything. When I go back into PPro, the linked comp appears with a red bar and won’t playback without stuttering. Frankly, I thought I had seen in the road show demo that the files were just being RAM previewed in AE and then played back in PPro without any rendering. I re-name the linked comp to the same name I had given it in AE and then render the file in PPro so I can playback cleanly.Well, if that inconvenience weren’t bad enough, when I close both programs and relaunch PPro only, the files once again appear with a red bar and need to be rendered. I can’t understand why PPro doesn’t remember the previously rendered file.”
When I already have a project open in AE, and I am in PP selecting a new clip (Replace with AE Comp), it sends me to AE and opens a NEW project for me.Right there we have a different experience.
I then rename the new project with a name that makes sense and save it.After doing work in the comp I save it again. Then I return to PP. I ALWAYS render the AE project in PrP.Thats standard operating procedure. At this point I dont do any RENAMING of anything like you do. I think that’s where your render files issue might be caused.When I close both apps and reopen then at a later time, all rendered AE DL are found. I hope this helps in some way. 😀
Tom Daigon
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Dave Fleming
August 17, 2012 at 5:19 pmThanks Tom. The renaming thing is because I have literally dozens of clips and I can’t deal with that many clips being named “Linked comp…01” whatever. Without renaming, I’d have a heck of a time keeping them straight. BUT, if that’s what is causing my re-render issue, I will give it a try and see what happens.
Dave
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Dave Fleming
August 17, 2012 at 7:33 pmTom, I’m becoming more and more certain that the culprit is my 2TB e-sata drive that I’m using for my Disk Cache in AE.
Can you tell me whay your preferences are set to in AE for Disk Cache, Media Cache, what kind of drives they are, internal or external, etc. Thanks!
Dave
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Tom Daigon
August 20, 2012 at 3:59 pmPC disk use…
Disk 1-System & Apps
Disk 2 – PrP Media and Media Cache Database
AE Media Cache and Media Cache Database
Disk 3 – Final Export of movies
Disk 4 – Clone of Disk 1 (backup)
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid 5 array (all media)Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRIg6h-LIm0 (Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid -
Dave Fleming
August 20, 2012 at 5:26 pmBased on your system layout, I’m going to assign my AE Disk Cache to my RAID drive instead of the e-sata storage drive.
I just thought I was following Adobe’s instructions by assigning it to a separate drive from my media.
df
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Tom Daigon
August 20, 2012 at 5:53 pmDisk 1-System & Apps
Disk 2 – PrP Media Cache and Media Cache Database
AE Media Cache and Media Cache Database
Disk 3 – Final Export of movies
Disk 4 – Clone of Disk 1 (backup)
Disk(s)5 – Dulce DQg2 16TB raid 5 array (all media)
I keep my media SEPARATE from my caches since folks Ive spoke to say its a wise thing to do. So I dont understand why you say based on my disk use you are going to put them on the SAME drive.Tom Daigon
PrP / After Effects Editor
http://www.hdshotsandcuts.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRIg6h-LIm0 (Best viewed at 1080P and full screen)
HP Z820 Dual 2687
64GB ram
Dulce DQg2 16TB raid
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