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  • Poster frames for merged clips in FCS3

    Posted by George Mandl on July 27, 2010 at 12:04 am

    Hello and thanks for reading. I’ve searched for this info, but so far haven’t found the answer.
    I’m working on a film which was shot on the RED camera, and the sound was captured separately to hard disk recorders. I’ve created merged clips with picture and sound. I’m finding that now that I’ve done this, when I control-p to set my poster frames for the thumbnails in the bins, there is very little accuracy to what frame I’ve parked on. Sometimes it works, and sometimes its waaaaay off. I suspect this is due to how much head or tail there is from the picture to the sound. In other words, if there is 45 seconds of black at the beginning of the clip because the sound was rolling 45 seconds earlier than picture, it seems to throw off my poster frame by this much. I wonder if FCP defaults to the audio when grabbing a poster frame from a merged clip (which seems counterintuitive to me).

    Has anyone run into this? Is there a way to tell FCP to set the poster frame based on picture?

    Thanks!

    Christian Hart replied 15 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Jason Brown

    July 27, 2010 at 2:14 am

    Didn’t know about ctl+p. But do u know about the thumbnail way to do it? Add thumbnail as view in browser…click and drag to move thru clip, then hold in ctl when u let off mouse…sets new poster frame for clip.

  • George Mandl

    July 28, 2010 at 5:17 pm

    Thanks, Jason. Its not so much an issue of how to make the poster frame, but rather an issue of getting an accurate poster frame when audio and video are synced into a merged clip. The merged clip thing seems to throw off the poster frame, and it becomes a bit of trial and error to find the “correct wrong frame” to scrub to in order to get a good poster frame. Maybe one of the Yodas on CC has a solution. FCP doesn’t have an obvious option for poster frames preferences.

  • Christian Hart

    July 30, 2010 at 11:14 pm

    Just to chime in that i have the same issue exactly.. (merged clips from separate WAVs and ProRes) Would be great to fix it but seems like a bug…

  • George Mandl

    August 2, 2010 at 10:38 pm

    Christian,
    Were you able to come up with a solution other than to guess?

  • Christian Hart

    August 2, 2010 at 10:54 pm

    Hi George,
    Unfortunately i haven’t found a solution. If i felt i really needed a representative frame i just guessed roughly how far out it looked and marked an in point somewhere nearby as you have been doing.

    Sorry – not very useful i know, but i’m really up against things so I havent had time to rule things out properly.
    It would be interesting to know if this really is a WAV issue and what happens when using AIFFs.

    (It’s time’s like these when you realise FCP isn’t really aimed at feature work…)

    all the best.

  • George Mandl

    August 3, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    A sad truth about FCP and feature work (especially in a shared environment). Add this bug to the list.

  • Christian Hart

    August 3, 2010 at 11:34 pm

    Gah. It’s a long list. The bells and whistles get added to with every iteration but basic solidity is always just slightly out of reach. They really should stick to making ipods. No, I take that back, it’s mean! I suppose like any company they respond to their market. More fool us for choosing the wrong tool! In doc land, fcp works just fine I find. Have you tried using replace edit yet? Same issue with loss of sync by the amount of audio precedeing the video… Major time killer.

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