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Poster Frame and Trim Mode not working properly with post-synced clips
Hi Everyone-
Final Cut Pro seems to be doing something really odd and I’m wondering if anyone else has experienced it and if so what is the fix:
We are shooting a movie on Red with sound coming in on multitrack wav files. We downconvert the R3D files to Prores and then manually sync the tracks in the timeline.
We link the pix and sound and drag them to the bin to make our dailies. They all play in sync. When we try to set a poster frame the issues begin. If I load the clip into the browser park the playhead on a frame and choose poster frame, the actual frame in the bin is very noticably offset (often by a few seconds).
Also, when I use the trim mode, the frames jump to a different part of the shot during trim. It’s like the shot is jumping ahead or back while I hit the frame advance or recede buttons. Once I let go of the button the image jumps to the correct number of frames. But, it’s very distracting if I am trying to trim, for example, to just before an actor blinks. I can’t trim 1 frame at a time. I have to keep hitting the button, watching the picture jump to a different part of the shot, release the trim button and watch the picture jump back to the now correctly trimmed frame…
As a test I took some of the Prores clips with scratch track sound and brought them into the bin directly from the finder, bypassing the syncing. Using those clips, the trim and poster frames work as expected. Obviously something is going on during syncing.
I assumed maybe because the audio and pix we different lengths the clip was getting “confused”, and didn’t know where to “start”. So, in the timeline with the synced clips, I razor bladed a few shots, linked them, and dragged them to the bin so the audio and video were the exact same length… Same issue.
I have noticed the same behavior on 2 separate Macs so I don’t think its a preference or corrupted install issue.
Anyone seen this and have any suggestions?
Thanks,
David
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2 Replies
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Hey David,
Same problem here with the trim tool on Prores clips with separate picture and sound.
Anyone with any thoughts/solutions to the issue?
-Fraunpetri
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yeah-
It had to do with any clips that had sound synced after they were shot… Using a sound clip that was a different length than the picture makes FCP freak out. And sadly, as we film makers know, sound and picture shot in dual system are ALWAYS different lengths.
Basically its a major bug in FCP which for some reason Apple hasn’t yet fixed, even though they claim that FCP is a professional editing system.
The only work around I found is either shoot the stuff with sound attached to the camera and thus the initial file has picture and sound married together, or make a quicktime clip of each cut and re-import that in (but then you lose the meta data) and its an agonizingly tedious process…
I’d love to hear if anyone else has found a better solution.
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