Possible switch-over… A few questions

[Chris Knight]

1. No, although the basic Curves in Premiere is decent, if you’re familiar with it in Photoshop. I use a plugin called Colorista.

2. Premiere comes with Media Encoder, and it – frankly – makes Compressor look like the piece of junk that it is. This is one of Adobe’s best software applications.

3. Premiere edits everything in its native codec. There is no need for transcoding. Unlearn that mentality. To archive, pick any codec (except ProRes, which is locked to OSX/FCP.

4. Audio tracks are mono, stereo, or part of a 5.1 chain. You can’t drag a mono clip into a stereo track, or vice versa, which is what was happening. You can clean up unused tracks, by right-clicking the name of the track, selecting options, then deleting any empty tracks (which will shift everything up).

5. I assume you mean scroll vertically. I don’t think so. The wheel behaves differently in most windows, but in the timeline, it’s a left-right scroll.

6. Output to what?

7. It does 5.1, and it’s relatively easy. I don’t understand what you mean by marks.

8. My sole reason for using Premiere as my every day editor, is the integration with Photoshop/After Effects/Encore/Media Encoder (and now Audition…Soundbooth was awful).

9. Encore is an excellent DVD/BD authoring environment, and I find it runs circles around DVD Studio. Static menus are integrated with Photoshop, and motion menus are integrated with After Effects. You can import Premiere project files, so you don’t have to render anything until you’re ready to burn the disc/image.

[Alex Gerulaitis]

[Chris Knight] “Premiere comes with Media Encoder, and it – frankly – makes Compressor look like the piece of junk that it is. This is one of Adobe’s best software applications.”

Except render farm functionality?

[Karl Soule]

For color grading, there’s a hidden gem inside After Effects called Color Finesse 3. This is included with Production Premium, and can do a LOT. I did some training videos on it on AdobeTV: https://tv.adobe.com/search/?q=color+finesse

Karl Soule’
Serious Magician
DV Rack and ULTRA specialist

[Daniel Mcclintock]

I agree with Color Finesse. Love it so much that for my home computer I bought the full version of it so I can access it through Premiere Pro without going into After Effects.

https://www.synthetic-ap.com/products/cf/index.html

If you’re looking for a bit more gusto, you can use DaVinci Resolve with Premiere Pro.

You can use XML to send your edit and native files into Resolve, grade in real-time with their tracker, windows, secondaries, etc. Then render your clips and export an XML that you can re-import into Premiere Pro.

Hope this info helps.

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[Bob Bonniol]

Some selective answers from somebody who uses both platforms…

It’s actually possible to output to the ProRes codecs from a P-Pro edit, if the Adobe install is on the same machine as the FCS install. It’s just a question of whether the ProRes QT component is installed, which happens when FCS get’s installed.

Dragging audio works roughly the same. Perhaps you had to unlink the audio from video ? For me, I never notice any difference in that behaviour (I use both PPro and FCP with regularity depending on client demands)

I use MOSTLY P-Pro. I vary back into FCP only if I’m working on a job where there are significant client assets that already include FCP projects, or where I am involved in a project with multiple editors where the pipeline has been pre-ordained as FCS. I am a heavy user of motion graphics and compositing, and I find the cross functionality between the Adobe apps to be a complete joy. Bouncing back and forth between AE and PP is seemless and awesome. PP’s already existing 64bit performance is breathtaking. And the learning curve moving between the apps was almost nil, given that you can map your keyboard in PP to use the FCP map. Dive in, I think you’ll like it…

Bob Bonniol

MODE Studios
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[Andrew Weeks]

Hey guys, thank you SO MUCH for the overly helpful information.
I have some follow up questions regarding things I can’t figure out, and some other things I have discovered via trial and error.

First off… Premiere pro, for the most part I love it, and Adobe Dynamic link.. Oh my. I mean I already used encore, after effects, and photoshop, so this is incredible, and unheard of for me in terms of productivity.

Now… I cut some video up from a very long take, and put it into after effects, however I forgot to hit save when closing AE, and now premiere says media offline.. Anyway that I can revert BACK to the file in that timeline before the AE dynamic link file went in there? It’d save me so much time. Undo is no longer an option 🙁

Also. Premiere RGB curves, SO MUCH BETTER than 3-way in FCP, especially since I come from photoshop. The shortcuts are basically the same too.

How do I take footage from premiere and export to media encoder? Can’t find that option.

I know that that premiere will accept and use any codec, but like… Is there a good codec to “standardize” myself with in Windows with premiere, especially for outputs?

If I have two stereo WAV tracks, sometimes I cannot put them on the same audio timeline…. Why? Like it needs a different track, I’m still used to FCP putting anything anywhere which was cool

How Do I setup and output 5.1 in premiere?

[Andrew Weeks]

Am I allowed to bump?