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  • Please can anyone advise – combine interlaced and progressive

    Posted by Louis Shula on June 30, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    Please please can anyone help me with this? I’ve posted it twice before now but haven’t got a response.

    I want to combine 25p and 50i avchd footage in premiere cs5 using a macbook pro, and then export and burn to dvd to play on this: toshiba 19dv 500b 19 inch wide screen hd ready lcd tv and dvd player

    i need advice on how best to combine interlaced and progressive footage and correct export settings to use to play on that machine.

    Eric Jurgenson replied 13 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
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  • Bernhard G.

    June 30, 2012 at 2:03 pm

    Hello,

    In Your situation I would consolidate everything to 1080p/25.
    In practice this means You are editing in a 1080p/25 timeline.

    At the end, send Your SD-sequence to AME for (progressive) DVD encoding.

    Unfortunately PremierePro does use by far the worst method for de-interlacing!;
    meaning it drops the half of the image information away and interpolates only one of two fields.
    If You want a better quality, there is the re-vision plugin FieldsKit for de-interlacing.

    In a perfect world I would edit in 1080i/25 and let FieldsKit convert the progressive video to
    interlaced; and encode the DVD to interlaced; upper field first. Why?
    Progressive DVDs are always a risk since they aren’t standardized, so there is no guarantee the TV-set gets the information ‘progressive’ from the DVD-Player…

    You see, it’s a very complex topic…

    Best regards.

  • Louis Shula

    June 30, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Hi Bernhard,

    Thanks for replying to me.

    I’m really new to this so I wonder if you could break it down a bit more?

    The files come out of the camera as .mts files. Should I use AME first to directly convert all of them to 1080p before putting them in the 1080p/25 timeline? as an mp4 or .mov file?

    Would the deinterlacing then happen there in the file conversion?

    When you say use AME to encode to progressive DVD what export settings should I use to do that?

    Also the files are MASSIVE – 50mb for a 15 second clip. What do I do about this?

  • Bernhard G.

    July 1, 2012 at 9:28 am

    Hello,

    AME’s de-interlacing is as worse as inside PP.
    So it makes no difference.

    For DVD-encoding simple choose the MPEG2 DVD anamorphic preset.

    Regarding to the ‘massive ‘ data amount’:
    we professionals simply have other scales what ‘massive’ is…

    Uncompressed 10bit HD with 2,25GB for 15sec. is ‘massive’.
    High-End intermediates (ProResHQ or DNxHD) with 345MB for 15sec.
    are a very acceptable compromise.

    My advice: put the datarate of Your AVCHD cams to the maximum – AVCHD is worse enough.
    Buy a 2TB HDD only for editing!

    Best regards.

  • Louis Shula

    July 1, 2012 at 1:08 pm

    Thanks Bernhard!

  • Chris Tompkins

    July 1, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    Start with a 25p sequence, drop some 50i footage in there with the 25p footage, export a couple minutes to create a test DVD or bluray.

    Then make a new sequence 50i, put some 50i footage in there and then add some 25p footage in there, export a couple minutes for a test.

    Chances are one of them is going to look just fine for you.

    I too, on occasion, have to mix i and p and it works out fine.
    Only Deinterlace when compressing final master for web delivery or computer presentation.

    Chris Tompkins
    Video Atlanta LLC

  • Eric Jurgenson

    July 2, 2012 at 1:00 pm

    Chris is on the right track here. You should NOT edit in a progressive sequence. Progressive footage looks fine in an interlaced sequence, whereas interlaced footage looks bad in a progressive sequence due to deinterlacing artifacts (lower vertical resolution, increased judder).

    If you have a choice, edit mixed progressive and interlaced footage in an interlaced sequence.

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