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playback stops on its own with RED footage
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Thank you, MIchael!
Do we have any news as to when Avid is planning to update the Red AMA plugin? It could definitely be a factor if the coding for the plugin is outdated.
Still, though I’m sure it could be a factor, I’m not sure that it is the main culprit in this particular case because, if it was, it would affect most users trying to transcode R3D footage within MC, not just me.
For now my workaround is to transcode proxy MXF dailies in Resolve and relink to the Hi Res files when the edit is done, but I would much rather be able to do the whole process within MC.
Are there any macOs settings (I’m on High Sierra), Quicktime settings, or settings within MC that could be causing this?
Thank you for your help!
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As I mentioned it may be a contributing factor. You make a good point about others not experiencing this so unclear what the actual problem may be. I don’t have any insight into Avid development and release schedule but it seems that this may be something to open a support ticket.
Do you know what camera and codec version and specs is being used?
Michael
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Also, how long are your clips? Something to test and might be telling is to break your linked masterclip into two subclips and try transcoding those to see if that succeeds or not.
Michael
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Users are reproting successful BRAW transcoding with v1.6 of the BRAW AMA plug-in released yesterday at Blackmagicdesign.com
Michael
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Hi Michael,
The camera is the Red Gemini. I’m not sure what codec version it is though. How do you find that out?
The lengths vary, some are short takes without spanning and some are long takes with spanning. Both spanned and not spanned clips generate the error.
The first workflow workaround I tried was to create proxy dailies for each card in Resolve and bring them into the Avid with an ALE file. This worked at first and all of the sudden stopped working even when I created specific projects for each of the different frame rates.
Then I tried doing the same but with an AAF and, again, it worked at first and then, from one day to the next, now only the Video MXF file reconnects but not the A1 and A2 files, even though they’re all in the AvidMediaFiles folder and I tried everything from trashing the database files to have it refresh to tweaking every parameter in the terrifyingly dreadful Relink window. I also tried crossing my fingers and praying each time I hit the Relink button to no avail.
So, I ended up using a workflow similar to the one I use with Premiere, which is transcoding to Quicktime ProRes proxies in Resolve and then reconnecting at the end when picture is locked and ready for color. This is pretty straightforward and bypasses the reliance on the MediaFiles folder, which has been working when it wants to. I’m hoping it works because otherwise I’ll have to redo everything in Premiere.
Today, I opened the project and found that the audio on all of the clips all of the sudden doesn’t work. The Audio mixer meters show there’s sound. Everything in the Audio Project settings with the Blackmagic card looks goods. It just decided not to work. So I’m spending the day trying to trouble shoot that instead of working and haven’t found a fix for that yet, so I’ll have to open another thread for that.
All in all, this is my first time using Avid since I learned it in film school and the experience has been full of errors, gotchas, hiccups, and obstacles even when I follow step by step workflow instructions. I was planning on switching from Premiere to Avid because Premiere crashes way too often for my taste, but now I don’t know. But after this experience I’m not sure. I can’t have something work one day and not the next. The inconsistency and unreliability I’m experiencing in this project makes me very uneasy about using it as my NLE of choice, as much as I want it to for other reasons that make me like Avid.
Thank you again for all of your help on this, Michael!
Joshua King Ortiz
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Regarding the BRAW plugin, yeah a user over at the Avid forums who has been in contact with Blackmagic gave me a heads up on the BRAW plug-in update. Will try it out and see if it fixes some of the bugs on that end.
Thanks Michael!
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If you open the R3D file in RedCineX Pro and select “Metadata” from one of the menus it will tell you camera, version, codec, compression, etc.
As far as the overall experience, Media Composer is much happier with native file formats and external dailies process. Over the years it has opened up to more formats, but there is still what is considered “native formats” and not native. If you can transcode/consolidate to it, it is native. That being said, AMA’s promise is to be the conduit of externally supported formats but can be hit and miss in some cases.
Also, I may have missed it the first time, but there are mixed frame rates in which Media Composer has changed the best methods of handling over the years. Legacy wise, you had to create a project that matched that rate, transcode, open bin in the native project, etc. In more recent versions, it is handled in transcode settings whether to preserve native rate, etc. I can’t recall off the top of my head whether it allows keeping frame rate, but changing resolution.
But, making your DNxHD proxies externally should just work. Are you syncing double system audio in Resolve or just transcoding the camera originals? I have to admit that I prefer using RedCineX Pro to make proxies. It automatically creates an ALE and AAF in additon to all the proxies. Move proxies to MediaFile folder, drag and drop AAF into bin, and optionally merge ALE.
Michael
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If you want to send me a link to download one of your R3D files, I can see if it works for me. It may be something system wise that Media Composer is not happy with, but hard to tell seeing as MC can link to it and play it somewhat while other applications have no problem with it.
What resolution is the file?
what is your project type?
Have you set Media Creation settings to be half good, half, 1/4, etc. to decode a little easier?
Are you working with proxy setting in Project window?There are a lot of different places to look which makes it confusing, but once you know where to look these settings may help.
Michael
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Hey Michael!
I tried to upload one of the spanned files to my Google Drive to share with you but my internet is running really wonky for the last few days for some reason and after uploading for a few hours it gave an unable to upload error.
As far as camera settings, it is a Red Gemini shot in 4096×2160, Redcode 7:1 compression, IPP2 pipeline, REDWideGamutRGB color space, Log3G10 Gamma Curve.
Here are the answers to your questions.
Are you syncing double system audio in Resolve or just transcoding the camera originals? No, just transcoding the originals and then synching in MC.
What resolution is the file? 4096×2160what is your project type? Do you mean what are the settings for the final deliverables? If so, they are ProRes 422 (QT wrapper) and H264 (mp4 wrapper) 1920×1080, 23.98fps.
Have you set Media Creation settings to be half good, half, 1/4, etc. to decode a little easier? The Import settings in the Media Creation window were set to DNxHD 36 (OP-Atom wrapper) and Linked Source Scaling Quality was set to Full.
Are you working with proxy setting in Project window? Yeah, I tried with and without the proxy setting in the project window.
I have to admit that I prefer using RedCineX Pro to make proxies. It automatically creates an ALE and AAF in additon to all the proxies. Move proxies to MediaFile folder, drag and drop AAF into bin, and optionally merge ALE. Wow, that is great to know, I did not know that. It sure saves some steps. Thank you for the tip!
Again, thank you for all of your help!
Joshua King Ortiz
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