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  • Playback Problems with AVCHD Files

    Posted by Sascha Engel on June 19, 2013 at 9:36 am

    It’s my second time, I am using PPro for an AVCHD Clip based Project.
    Last time the files played back ok.
    Now, I set up the project in the right pre set 1080p 25fps ACVHD, but the render bar shows red for all the clips and it plays back very staccato, skipping a lot of frames.

    What can be the reason?

    Greetings,

    Sascha Engel
    TIME BANDITZ Productions
    http://www.youtube.com/taikang

    Phillip Todd replied 12 years, 10 months ago 3 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Dale Roberts

    June 25, 2013 at 3:19 am

    Are you using shots from the C100 camera? If so I read that the 25P is not really 25P but more 25i wrapped in 25P clothing so to speak.

    You have to inetrepret the footage I believe..

    see if that helps…

    Other option is to just render the work area I guess…

    I’m quite new at PP too just letting you know!

  • Sascha Engel

    June 25, 2013 at 7:48 am

    No, the footage was shot on the PANASONIC TM-900 and that material is true 25p 1080.

    Greetz,

    Sascha Engel
    TIME BANDITZ Productions
    http://www.youtube.com/taikang

  • Phillip Todd

    July 7, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    [Sascha Engel] “but the render bar shows red for all the clips and it plays back very staccato, skipping a lot of frames.”

    -Does your editing computer meet the Mercury Playback Engine (MPE) specs? It sounds like MPE is off. Is MPE enabled for the project? You can check: I think it’s under the menu item: Project > Settings. If you see something like “MPE software only” and no option for “MPE” your system doesn’t meet the MPE spec. If your graphics card has at least 896MB of Vram there is a workaround to get PPro and AE to recognize many unsupported cards. https://forums.adobe.com/message/4822080 It works well.

    Please post your solution here when you find it.

    Phillip Todd
    Cinematographer

    https://vimeo.com/philliptodd

  • Sascha Engel

    July 7, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    It shows “Mercury Playback engine Software only” But it’s great out, so I can not choose anything else than that.
    What does that mean?

    Sascha Engel
    TIME BANDITZ Productions
    http://www.youtube.com/taikang

  • Phillip Todd

    July 7, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    Sasha, there is a list of troubleshooting here:

    https://forums.adobe.com/message/4293848

    If you post your system specs (processor, RAM, GPU, PPro version, etc. yes all of the detail of your computer) then someone might be able to point you to the specific problem.

    If AVCHD used to playback fine with yellow bars and now no longer playback smoothly and has red bars in the timeline, I’d guess the hack was applied previously and then you applied a PPro update and the hack needs to be applied again.

    Phillip Todd
    Cinematographer

    https://vimeo.com/philliptodd

  • Sascha Engel

    July 7, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    I installed the new CUDA Driver, but already step 2 I could not do: Install the Card Status Program, since I still run 10.6.8. and it doesn’t not run on this OSX.
    The CUDA Driver alone, does unfortunately not change anything.

    Sascha Engel
    TIME BANDITZ Productions
    http://www.youtube.com/taikang

  • Sascha Engel

    July 7, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    It’s a 2008 MBP 17inch with 6Gb RAM, 2,5Ghz Processor, Intel Core 2 Duo, GeForce 8600 M GT Card, 512 MB VRAM

    Sascha Engel
    TIME BANDITZ Productions
    http://www.youtube.com/taikang

  • Sascha Engel

    July 7, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    Ah, of course the version of PPro: CS 5.5

    Sascha Engel
    TIME BANDITZ Productions
    http://www.youtube.com/taikang

  • Phillip Todd

    July 7, 2013 at 5:44 pm

    [Sascha Engel] “GeForce 8600 M GT Card, 512 MB VRAM”

    That’s not enough vram to meet the MPE spec. of 896 MB vram desktop or 1 GB laptop. See: https://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5-2.htm and look for Laptop GPUs 2/3 of the way down the page.

    To edit smoothly you need to transcode to an editing codec. There are threads here about installing ProRes or the Avid codecs DNxHD. Discussion here: https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/3/943008#943008

    While that is not what you wanted to hear, the only other option is to upgrade your 5 yr old laptop. So maybe buying a 2TB drive to store all those transcoded files on is a cheaper route.

    Off Topic: your 2008 MBP might not even meet the FCPx spec. ( https://support.apple.com/kb/SP624 ) it’s the only other option that can playback native formats like AVCHD. I tried FCPX on my 2009 MBP 17″ 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo w/ NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512 MB gram specifically to edit AVCHD natively and FCPX ran, but, had a lot of lag to playback. In addition It was always generating big render files too, bloating my disks. In a last attempt I installed an SSD bootdrive in the optial bay (removed the DVD burner), replaced the 5400 HDD with a 7200 RPM 750 GB drive in the HDD bay and that helped. These upgrades helped a lot (it feels like a new laptop if I don’t try to edit AVCHD in FCPX on it), but, there was still lag when playing back AVCHD in FCPX. I also didn’t like the color correction tool in FCPX, that after making corrections, the next time you opened the program, it kept the correction but reset the controls to look like no correction was made. A deal breaker for me. So I upgraded to a new computer and went to PPro (I used to use FCP7 and PPro just makes more sense to me).

    Once you are on PPro you could always look into using a desktop PC for editing AVCHD if funds are tight.

    Phillip Todd
    Cinematographer

    https://vimeo.com/philliptodd

  • Sascha Engel

    July 7, 2013 at 7:04 pm

    Thanx Philip,

    for your time to answer me.
    Yup, that’s all bad news, but only partially, since I usually worked in FCP 7 and did not mind the L&T process there, since I love to work with ProRes files. Just wanted to use it for fast jobs to avoid ingesting.
    But the other great news is, that I get my brand new HacMac delivered tomorrow: 12TB Stripped RAID beast with extra 256 SSD Drive, 12TB of SATA3 Server Grade Drives, 32GB of RAM and 3,4Ghz processor with a 2GB NVIDEA GTX680 card….so I scream out loud to the AVCHD files: Bring it on Dudes!

    😉

    Greetings,

    Sascha Engel
    TIME BANDITZ Productions
    http://www.youtube.com/taikang

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