Playback issues with Premiere Pro CS4

[Tim Kolb]

Usually this behavior happens when you have a timeline framerate mismatch…like a 23.976fps clip on a 24 fps sequence (or 30 fps on a 29.97 fps sequence) without interpreting the clip for the framerate of that sequence.

The PPro sequence is actually designed somewhat around audio which is why you can simply click on the “audio units” option and edit the audio on the timeline down to the sample or the millisecond) and in some cases in versions prior to CS5 (I haven’t tested this in CS5 or later), the timeline would accept slightly mismatched framerates, but since the frame changes migrate, the timeline stops playing as soon as the variation starts to delay delivering new frames at the proper interval.

I’d start by checking the framerates of the sequence and the clips…

As far as ProRes is concerned, I’ve never had an issue playing it on my Windows machines though I have seen weird clip dimension reporting from the QT Player’s inspector which seems to be tied to scaling the player, though it never made a difference to Premiere Pro…are the clips actually not big enough to fill the frame on a proper timeline with 1920×1080 frame size? Where are you seeing these odd sizes being reported?

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

Adobe Certified Instructor

[Thomas Frank]

Still having this issue sequence and media are int he same frame rate and clips are also 1920 x 1080.
Adobe Premiere CS4 10.6.8

🙁

[Tim Kolb]

In order to be of much help, I’d need some of my other questions answered. Does the media fill the screen? If Premiere Pro sees it as being as small as you’re saying, it wouldn’t…

Also…is your QT up to date? That makes a big difference.

I used ProRes on Windows in Premiere Pro CS4, but I never did on a Mac. With CS4 being two…and nearly three released versions back, it’s hard to troubleshoot as there simply aren’t as many people running it anymore to try to reproduce the problem.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

Adobe Certified Instructor

[Thomas Frank]

In order to be of much help, I’d need some of my other questions answered. Does the media fill the screen? If Premiere Pro sees it as being as small as you’re saying, it wouldn’t…

Also…is your QT up to date? That makes a big difference.

I used ProRes on Windows in Premiere Pro CS4, but I never did on a Mac. With CS4 being two…and nearly three released versions back, it’s hard to troubleshoot as there simply aren’t as many people running it anymore to try to reproduce the problem.

Yes all media is in Full Screen (Media and Sequence are identical)
Yes Quicktime is up to date (I am in a Macland environment no PC’s here)
All our ProRes footage plays fine in FCP7, FCPX, Media Composer and the variety other motion graphic programs i.e. After Effects, Motion, Shake and so on.

It is just Premiere Pro CS4 it will start to play and skip frames and just stop.

Oh yeah all CS4 are also up to date.

Thanks

[Tim Kolb]

Well… if you’re running CS4 v4.2.1, it sounds like it’s some sort of bug then. Very likely it’s something that was introduced with a recent version of QT…one that probably arrived long after CS4 was released if you’re completely up to date…

Since CS4 is relative history (original release was September, 2008), and CS5 was such a sweeping change, I suppose you could try to back-date QT and see if an older version helps the problem.

As i said, i didn’t run into any issues with ProRes on Windows with CS4 (I actually have an Adobe TV bit on using it…worked well), but I’m certain I was using a version of both QT and ProRes that fit that time period. Unfortunately, it can be a challenge to troubleshoot systems when you have 2011 media and OS versions with a 2008 application.

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

Adobe Certified Instructor