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  • play forward function?

    Posted by Ken Pugh on May 17, 2005 at 11:41 am

    Being new to FCP I keep wanting to do things I’m familiar with from other editing software, one of these is the ability to play forward from the timeline a pre-determined amount of time (eg 12 or 24 frames) without having to move the cursor (eg without initiating play mode). Is this possible in FCP? I used to use it to quickly select cut points in the audio, moving the cursor back and forward a frame at a time while listening to the audio play forward a second. I’ve tryed every key shortcut I can think of to emulate this function (eg play around current) but can’t seem to get what I want.

    Cheers,

    Ken.

    Tony Crayton replied 20 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 17, 2005 at 1:14 pm

    Not really. you can move the cursor a frame or 10 frames at a time, but you can’t hear audio doing this (other than a single frame scrub if scrubbing is turned on). The arrow keys move 1 or with the option key pressed, 10 frames. Might turn on the waveforms in the timeline, and maybe that will help with the edit point… opt+cmd+w toggles them on and off. They work best if you enlarge the track width in the audio track. But FCP doesn’t have the feature of playing more than one frame in a scrub like other systems do. You can play at half speed though, if you hold down the k key with the j or L key, might help too.

    Jerry

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  • Ken Pugh

    May 17, 2005 at 1:52 pm

    Thanks, I use the waveform already, by using the follow function and putting the clip into the viewer window – I find the timeline waveform slows my system down too much. The K key is a useful tip too, thanks.

    While I’m on the topic…. I wonder if you know of another function I’m trying to emulate – first the scenario:

    My DSR570 camera tends to give me a blue fringe on certain edges – especially where light and dark edges meet and the image is over-exposed (like the leaves of a tree against the sky).

    In Media 100 the colour corrector allowed me to reduce the blue, in YUV colour space using the ‘blue’ channel only at luminance values above say 90% only. It worked really well. I’ve tried the ‘desaturate highlights’ filter in FCP, which seems similar, but it doesn’t quite do the trick.

    Ken.

  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 17, 2005 at 4:34 pm

    Audio waveforms once built, should be pretty fast in their creation from then on. There is a file written to the waveforms cache that will access faster than the first build anyway.

    I’d think that more RAM might help in this area, and a faster display card might also build these faster…

    As far as the other problem (sounds like chromatic aberration like digital stills using cameras with so so lenses with DSLR’s). I’ve not had to contend with this in video (but there are fixes for stills in photoshop if the camera shoots a RAW photo), so not sure of the solution for video… hope someone else chimes in here…

    Jerry

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  • Ken Pugh

    May 17, 2005 at 9:08 pm

    I’m finding that every time I move the timeline, and then return back to a section with a previously drawn waveform it re-draws again. I’m sure the waveforms used to cache, but for the last 6 months they always re-draw… and although I’m on a G4 D125, I do have a 128 Meg memeory card and 2 GIGs RAM. With eight tracks of audio zoomed out to show say 4 minutes I have to wait around 20 seconds every time I move the timeline!

    Ken.

  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 18, 2005 at 2:56 am

    More RAM might make a difference, but JUST FOR KICKS… trash your Waveform cache file. You’ll find it where you’ve set it to be saved in your Scratch Disk Settings window… It will rebuild that way. Maybe it’s corrupted? I have 2.5 gigs RAM on my dual 2 gig… worked all day with those waveforms in timeline on, albeit only 4 tracks on about a 40 minute show and didn’t have any rebuilding going on… FCP 5 though.

    Jerry

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  • Sean Lander

    May 18, 2005 at 9:07 am

    Hi there. Couldn’t you set the preview pre-roll to 0 and preview post-roll to 1 second. Then using play around current that would give you what you want. No?

  • Ken Pugh

    May 18, 2005 at 12:19 pm

    That’s it!

    Many thanks, now to solve my sluggish audio waveforms…. maybe that’s alll the exuse i need for FCP5….

    Cheers,

    Ken.

  • Ken Pugh

    May 18, 2005 at 12:33 pm

    I have also now discovered that the waveforms were not caching correctly as the drive designated for these files was almost full. This was partly due to about 5 gigs of past projects in the autosave files in the vault!

    Many thanks for all the suggestions, speedy timelines with waveforms and instant previews have returned – it seems FCP can emulate just about any other non-linear system, if you know where to look….

    Ken.

  • Jerry Hofmann

    May 18, 2005 at 1:00 pm

    Excellent post! I should have thought of that… it will do exactly as Ken wants.

    Jerry

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  • Tony Crayton

    May 18, 2005 at 3:39 pm

    [Ken Pugh] “one of these is the ability to play forward from the timeline a pre-determined amount of time (eg 12 or 24 frames) without having to move the cursor (eg without initiating play mode)”

    Hi Ken,
    Sorry to hijack your post but could you expand a little bit on exactly what this involves? It sounds like something that would be useful to me but I can’t quite rap my mind around it. I make a lot of musically synchronized edits and often hit the play/stop key. Does you method ease that somewhat? Thanks in advance.

    Tony

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