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Pixel aspect – Quicktime vs. FCP – Again, Please.
Posted by Collin Alexander on March 14, 2009 at 10:52 pmNTSC is rectangular pixels, QT is square pixels. I know this issue has been discussed many times, I understand the problem, but I don’t actually have a solution.
My final output is for a standard def NTSC DVD. If my timeline is rectangular pixels, then Quicktime stretches the files horizontally. If my timeline is square pixels, QT plays the files correctly, but then I’ll have to convert my files for the DVD master.
I need to work with exported QT files for music.
I’ve tried exporting the work files every different way I can think of, and it doesn’t make any difference, QT always wants square pixels, and stretches the picture.
How can I export from a NTSC rectangular pixel timeline so that QT will play the thing right?
Thanks.
Stanley Flomin replied 16 years, 10 months ago 10 Members · 18 Replies -
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Dennis Couzin
March 15, 2009 at 3:17 amMy experience is all with PAL’s rectangular pixels, but I think you have no problem.
I leave my timeline with its usual rectangular pixels and go straight to Compressor for the mpeg2 conversion. DVD Studio Pro imports this file to make the DVD files. The resulting DVD plays with the correct aspect ratio.
I can make a QuickTime file straight from the same timeline. It initially plays with the wrong aspect ratio, but this is easily fixed in the QuickTime file playback data as follows:
(1) Open the file with QuickTime.
(2) Go to Window>Show Movie Properties.
(3) Select the Video Track
(4) Deselect Preserve Aspect Ratio
(5) Change the scaled size to give the aspect ratio you want. Do this by increasing one number while leaving the other number fixed.
(6) Press the Enter key
(7) Quit QuickTime Player
(8) Save changes.The QuickTime file, with or without the playback modification, could also be used in Compressor to make the mpeg2 to make a DVD which plays with the correct aspect ratio.
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Rafael Amador
March 15, 2009 at 3:38 am[Dennis Couzin] “The QuickTime file, with or without the playback modification, could also be used in Compressor to make the mpeg2 to make a DVD which plays with the correct aspect ratio.”
No that easy.
When you change the Properties your file is not any more a standard NTSC.
When you bring it to any application (FC, MPEGStreamclip) the results are unpredictable.
So change the properties of the movie for display, but when you need to re-process it set the standard specs again.
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Collin Alexander
March 15, 2009 at 5:42 amThank you, thank you. Dennis’ solution is great. I didn’t know you could change the properties in Quicktime. That’s exactly what I needed to do. I just change the dimensions from 720 x 480 to 640 x 480, and it plays right on my Virtual VTR.
The master file for the DVD will just be straight from compressor with no tweaking.
Thanks again.
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David Roth weiss
March 15, 2009 at 7:17 am[Collin Alexander] “Dennis’ solution is great. I didn’t know you could change the properties in Quicktime. That’s exactly what I needed to do. I just change the dimensions from 720 x 480 to 640 x 480, and it plays right on my Virtual VTR. “
Dennis’ method will work Collin, but that’s really not the way to do it properly. Instead, try the following:
1. Open your 720×480 mov file in Quicktime Player:
2. Go to Window>>Show Movie Properties
3. Click on the line with the name of the .mov file.
4. Check the “Conform aperture to:” box
5. Change the dropdown menu to “Production”
6. Go to File>>SaveThis make your file display properly in QT Player without changing the pixel dimensions.

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Rafael Amador
March 15, 2009 at 9:17 amCarps!!
Where did you find David?
Great.
Why there is not a proper QT Player manual?
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Hector Berrebi
March 15, 2009 at 2:07 pmRaphael..
good book, worth the 20 bucks.
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Rafael Amador
March 15, 2009 at 2:19 pmHi Hector,
Thanks a lot for the link.
I’ll order from Amazon.
I had no idea was something like that published.
Cheers,
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Tom Brooks
March 15, 2009 at 3:29 pmDavid,
Now if you could just put this in a Super Bowl ad or get it added to the Ten Commandments or something…
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Dennis Couzin
March 15, 2009 at 4:19 pmThanks David for showing a sleaker solution.
Hiding in the corners of Apple’s cobbled code are great tricks and also legacy garbage. My general preference for entering numbers over trusting jargon, such as “Conform aperture to production”, is not the best approach to QuickTime.
The “proper” solution is one that completely avoids what Rafael refers to as “unpredictable results”. Maybe David’s is one. -
David Roth weiss
March 15, 2009 at 4:55 pm[Dennis Couzin] “My general preference for entering numbers over trusting jargon, such as “Conform aperture to production”, is not the best approach to QuickTime. “
Come on Dennis, “Conform aperture to production” was probably worth at least few hundred lines of code and it’s absolutely as clear and concise as it could possibly be. At least it is if you’re one of Apple’s 18-year-old geek code jockeys who has never worked a day in the video biz.
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