Piracy Protection

[Angelo Lorenzo]

From what sites? Both Flash and Silverlight have content management at the player level regardless of the file it is serving? Are you talking about online protection?

[Jeff Greenberg]

Can you be more specific about what you’re trying to do?

Remember, anything viewable on your computer, technically can be recorded (and therefore used as a source.)

Best,

Jeff G

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[Margie Smith]

Not true.

I was out of town and needed to retreive some of our own video for a project I was working on but forgot to bring the original files with me.

I used Jaksta to recapture the progressive download off of first Vimeo and then Youtube, converted the files to ProRes and was able to edit with them but when I tried to convert back to .mp4’s Final Cut kept giving me an errot message and wouldn’t let me do it. Wouldn’t let me re-compress into any format. Once I removed the ripped files all was well. They were the problem.

In the past, I’ve been asked make DVD masters with both analog and digital copy protection. As I recall, after the copy protection was implemented it would be possible to make a first generation copy of the disc but no more. I think that there is a similar type of encodong going on here. Probably something that was developed ahead of the antipiracy law that was about to come up in congress but then got shot down. Just a guess…

I’d like to find out how this is being done.

Margie Smith
http://www.littlewindow.tv
http://www.thinktank-films.com

[Jeff Greenberg]

[Margie Smith] “I used Jaksta to recapture the progressive download off of first Vimeo and then Youtube, converted the files to ProRes and was able to edit with them but when I tried to convert back to .mp4’s Final Cut kept giving me an errot message and wouldn’t let me do it. Wouldn’t let me re-compress into any format. Once I removed the ripped files all was well. They were the problem.”

That’s not a copy protection issue. You might want to look at something like DamnVid (open source, option of zero re-encoding.) I don’t know if Jaksta does a re-encode.

So everything worked in FCP and then you couldn’t make MPG4 via compressor? Youtube nor Vimeo uses any copy protection at all.

What do you mean by ripped and in what part of your chain are you doing it? Yes, DVDs have the option of two types of copy protection – CSS – content scrambling system and Macrovision – both have to be done at the replication house (and have separate licensing costs). You couldn’t really make copies either way. Macrovision would adjust the video gain – although methods to ignore that existed before DVDs – and CSS was pretty much taken care of due to lax methods of protecting it.

It sounds like this is your chain:
Digital file (youtube/vimeo) via Jaksta> ProRes (how did you get your video into ProRes – Jaksta?) > FCP > Output.

And it sounds like you’re having a problem with the FCP>Output part of your chain. Yes?

Best,

Jeff G

Certified Master Trainer | Adobe, Apple, Avid
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