Picture In Picture (pip) & Stabilizing

[Jonny Webb]

Update: I tried Titler & Track Matt
but again, the positioning is all wrong.

i made a oval shape in Title and placed it on track 3
-track 2, foreground, is the head (close up of someone talking)
-track 1, background, is the background (picnic)

i got the Track Matt Key and applied it to the head.
Open the effects settings, and change Matt:None to Matt:Video3

Nope – the matt moves around with the background.
I tried all combinations, but still cant get it working…

++ As we’re all here, i guess we’re not all there ++

[Joe Barta iv]

Sounds like a better job for After Effects. If you have AE, watch a couple of tutorials on motion tracking and/or tracking with Mocha in AE. I’m not an AE motion effects creator, I’m an editor, but I’ve found it useful and reasonably easy to grasp some simple techniques like tracking. Much better than eternal manually key framing.

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[Jeff Pulera]

You didn’t state what version of PP you have, but if you have the Warp Stabilizer effect, apply that to the person clip by itself, full screen, set to “No Motion”. Once that clip is stabilized, then EXPORT it as a new clip, then import that new, stabilized clip and use it for the PIP.

Thanks

Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers

[Jonny Webb]

Thanks for the replies,
but i’d really like to do it in PP (version cc)

++ As we’re all here, i guess we’re not all there ++

[Jeff Pulera]

So use the Warp Stabilizer in CC rather than keyframing it, see post #4

Jeff

[Jonny Webb]

Thanks, but is this really the way: to export and re-import…

It will be very tedius when i have to do this effect for many people.

And i just had to correct some lighting, which meant re-export (as a new file) re-import and replace footage with new import…

And with the keyframing i had my talkers face perfectly still – with warp its still-ish, but moves when the head turns…

i really dont like this workflow 🙁

[Jeff Pulera]

You could try Nesting a Sequence. In other words, create a NEW SEQUENCE for each clip you need to stabilize, add clip and apply Warp Stabilizer. Then drop that “Sequence” into the main Sequence and apply PIP and such.

I cannot predict how Warp Stabilized clips work in Nested Sequences, especially when later applying other effects (PIP, cropping), so that is why I personally would use Export. No re-rendering after that point, the new clip is “good to go” and do what you want with it.

Good luck

Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers

[Jonny Webb]

Thank you.
I’ll give it a try…

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