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  • photo mosaic ?? how to do it best ?

    Posted by Zip-edit on January 23, 2006 at 8:21 pm

    the concept-
    80 pictures total
    Client wants photo to appear almost full screen then “push back into a “slot”. This repeats many times till the entire screen is a mosaic of photos.
    Photos are to go these slots at random places as opposed to in order, left to right.

    I have a finished “photo grid” where they are all supposed to end up. and I have all photos as individually.

    I put up the grid then key masked the whole thing.. then as the real photo flys to its home I punch out the mask then dump the real photo.
    Follow me ??

    Problem… as I unveil adjoining slots it gets tricky. rebuilding the punched out mask holes. “HOLY keyframe count !!!”
    remember…eighty pics ARGH !!!&#&%$@

    please tell me there is an easier way to do this
    Thoughts ??
    Zip

    Zip

    Zip-edit replied 20 years, 3 months ago 6 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Ted Snow

    January 23, 2006 at 11:00 pm

    Sounds like you would need each photo on a seperate track and use track motion to zoom in-out and position where you want them.

  • Zip-edit

    January 23, 2006 at 11:40 pm

    Trying to stay away from 80 tracks.
    there must be another way !!
    -masking to reveal squares and repeating process
    Zip

    Zip

  • Mike Kujbida

    January 24, 2006 at 1:43 am

    If you think 80 is bad, take a look at the Bezier fun thread. 300 pieces!!
    Potentially more help in the compositing question thread by the same OP.
    Hopefully Edward Troxel will chime in here as I think he helped out on this project.

    Mike

  • Stephen Mann

    January 24, 2006 at 7:55 am

    80-tracks sounds like the best way to me.

  • Gary Alan

    January 24, 2006 at 8:37 pm

    I would do it with two tracks. The top track is the new pic full screen that scales down with keyframes to fit in its position on the background track 2. Keyframe the last five frames of travel to fade out because the background track image will have its stamp appear at the correct time. You need to create the back ground track pic as individual pics that increment as each pic flys back to it.

    80 pics will end up very small on the final background image. I doubt anyone can be able to distinguish the original image when it was full frame down to a spot.

    The hardest part is creating your final background images in Photoshop(or any paint app). It will be 81 pics total on track 2 of Vegas. Pic 1 is blank. Pic 2 has one final stamp. Pic 2 has two final stamps and so on. You can probably zoom all your full frame pics to any position on the final background in Vegas since no one can tell what it is being so small.

    Gary

  • Zip-edit

    January 24, 2006 at 9:32 pm

    gary-
    good point.
    I might try that
    because I already have the final mosaic given to me.
    I’m currently trying masking the whole thing on track 2 then punching holes in it as the the real pic fly’s in to land on the “grid”
    (trk 1). at that point the pic just gets swapped for the grid pic.

    ??? how many masks can be put on a single slate. It would suck to get to 75 then realize thats the limit ARGH !!
    Do you fore-see a disaster with this technique ??
    Zip

    Zip

  • Gary Alan

    January 24, 2006 at 10:11 pm

    I would take the final graphic and work backwards in Photoshop. Erasing a portion that represents one pic at a time so I end up with 80 bew pics. Then lay all 81 new background pics on the Vegas timeline on Track 2. When palyed, it would appear as the final mosiac pic grows with each new portion popping on. Now lay all of the full size images on Track 1 and keyframe them as needed. Adjust durations as needed.

    In Photoshop, take the final image, make it a layer, create a new layer below it the color of the background (whatever it might be). Erase one small portion that represents one of the 80 pics, save it as number 80, erase another, save it as number 79 and so on.

    Gary

  • Stephen Mann

    January 25, 2006 at 5:33 am

    I would actually start at the full-size image and pan/crop to the mosaic, then run it backwards to get the desired effect. One track at a time.

    Zip – There is no limit to the number of tracks you can put on Vegas.

    Steve Mann

  • Greg Noss

    January 25, 2006 at 10:07 am

    You might try to build a matte to reveal the mosaic.-

    Drop the mosaic into photoshop as the background.
    Create a single BLACK rectangle the size of one image of the mosaic.
    duplicate that layer(79 more)and distribute it until the entire image is covered.
    Turn off the background mosaic image.
    Save the full black image, randomly turn off the layers one at a time and save each image, as you turn off the layers white rectangles should appear, if they don’t create a new white layer just above the background layer.
    Give them all the same name and number them sequentially XXXXX_001.tif etc that way you can import the sequence into vegas set the still duration to what ever you want the timing to be.
    Place this layer above the mosaic image, set the mosaic image as the compositing child of the (Matte Layer) black and white sequence.
    Set the compositing mode of the matte layer(B/W Sequence) to multiply. You might need to apply an Invert filter to the B/W track if it is revealing the wrong way.
    Put your full images in a third track above these composited tracks and use pan and crop to zoom them into place.

    the big advantage to using a matte is that you can apply effects to the whole reveal sequence or you can modify the individual frames as needed

    examples: to apply a vingnet(sp.) to the mosaic images just apply a blur filter to the matte layer. If you want the mosaic images to reveal at irregular time intervals just shrink or expand the edges of the stills in the Matte sequence with the ripple edit button on.

    Just another idea of how to get from point A to point B.

    Best of luck, I did a test created about 10 squares took less than 5 mins. make a quick matte sequence.

    Greg Noss

  • Zip-edit

    January 25, 2006 at 3:48 pm

    All of you have valid approaches. Not being really solid with photoshop I tended to veer away from the learning curve in the essence of time.

    Sooo… I’m 40 pics into this doing it with a revealing mask over the final grid pic. (trk 3)
    3 tracks total
    a (trk 1) pic lands on its respective spot as a new hole gets punched in the grid. then pic disappears. 2nd trk is the next “fly in” with a small over lap to save time and keep it interesting.

    Still open for suggestions on future options though.

    Zip

    Zip

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