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  • John Rofrano

    December 29, 2017 at 2:48 pm

    [Shawn Miller] “I wouldn’t care if my computer case was hot pink with purple stripes and had “My Little Pony’s First Computer Friend” scrawled across the side.”

    Shawn… I think I found your next computer case! ????


    lol (…no ponies were harmed in the making of this case)

    ps. This photo created on a aesthetically pleasing Mac. 😉

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

  • Greg Janza

    December 29, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    Tony, John’s PC experience is by no means the norm and so it would be foolish to extrapolate that to the overall PC experience. The advancement of cloud computer technology has transformed the industry and allowed people to completely rethink how they work and to me that’s a real positive.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
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  • Bill Davis

    December 29, 2017 at 8:08 pm

    Genius!

    With so many hugely talented women working in editing today – appealing to their nostalgic side could be a massive marketing win.

    As a male editor, of course, some might prefer a “Brony” edition.

    RED pretty much copped the ALIENS aesthetic with their early cases and designs.

    Now I’m looking really forward to this idea expanding.

    Maybe having a PC delivered in a Snoopy’s doghouse or “Schroders piano” form factor.

    How about a “Baywatch” case?

    Our computers can become todays collectable lunchboxes.

    Awesome.

    Affinity cases FTW!

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    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Scott Witthaus

    December 29, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    After watching this video, is he comparing a 4 year old computer to a new, tweaked system? Seemed like an infomercial to me. Sexy product shots, several logo shots….maybe I am mistaken. I thought he said he was using his MacPro that he got “whenever they came out”.

    Scott Witthaus
    Senior Editor/Visual Storyteller
    Managing Partner, Low Country Creative LLC
    Professor, VCU Brandcenter

  • Shawn Miller

    December 29, 2017 at 10:11 pm

    [John Rofrano] ” [Shawn Miller] “I wouldn’t care if my computer case was hot pink with purple stripes and had “My Little Pony’s First Computer Friend” scrawled across the side.”

    Shawn… I think I found your next computer case! ????”

    LOL, that’s it!! If this thing saves me days of render time and thousands of dollars per year, I wouldn’t hesitate to use it!

    [John Rofrano] “ps. This photo created on a aesthetically pleasing Mac. ;-)”

    Yeah… but if your applications require substantially more horsepower than Photoshop, the aesthetics of the computer you run them on would probably be a lot less important to you. ☺

    Shawn

  • Craig Seeman

    December 29, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    That’s so Apple circa 2001.
    Hey they could go there again only cooler this time.

  • John Rofrano

    December 30, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    [Shawn Miller] “Yeah… but if your applications require substantially more horsepower than Photoshop, the aesthetics of the computer you run them on would probably be a lot less important to you. ☺”

    Well, if your applications are running sub optimally for the platform I would agree. But…

    [Shawn Miller] “LOL, that’s it!! If this thing saves me days of render time and thousands of dollars per year, I wouldn’t hesitate to use it!”

    Speaking of saving rendering time… Here is the results of a 2 minute 4K Timeline export on a 2016 MacBook Pro which took 3.27 minutes for FCP X and a wapping 58.42 minutes for Premiere Pro! (FCP X is ~18x faster !!!) Even running Premiere Pro on a Dell XPS with the same specs it took 18.51 minutes which still makes FCP X 5.6x faster than Premiere! It’s not about the hardware speeds and feeds, it’s about how much work you can get done with the hardware and software combined.

    So you don’t need some big behemoth of a PC with fans screaming like a 747 on takeoff when you have software that is optimized for the hardware it’s running on like we have on the Mac. Think about it. PC developers need to make their software work with 100’s of different GPU’s. Mac developers have a handful of configurations to support so the software can be extremely optimized for the platform.

    The chart above speaks for itself. Premiere Pro runs better on Windows than on a Mac but it still doesn’t runs nearly as fast as Final Cut Pro X on a Mac so yea, if you are a Premiere user, Windows should be your platform of choice and you should buy the biggest beefiest PC you can afford. FCP X editors don’t need that much power to get even more work done on a Mac. The problem is not PC vs Mac as much as it’s Premiere running better on a PC. Since I don’t use any Adobe products, the Mac gives be both aesthetics and performance. ????

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

  • John Rofrano

    December 30, 2017 at 6:02 pm

    [greg janza] “John’s PC experience is by no means the norm and so it would be foolish to extrapolate that to the overall PC experience. “

    Hmmm… I have been using a PC for over 35 years! Let me give you my “PC Experience”: I used CP/M on my Apple ][+ with a Z80 card before the IBM PC was invented (the pre-cursor to PCDOS). I’ve used PCDOS 1.0 – 5.0, Windows 3.1, Windows 286/386, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Millennium, Windows NT, Windows XP, Windows 7, and Windows 10 (I wasn’t foolish enough to use Vista or 8.0). I’ve bought PC’s off the shelf. I’ve built my own expressly for video editing several times. I have pretty much seen it all. Maybe I’m not the norm? but what is?

    Here is my PC experience that I know has happened to others in one form or another: Two days before I was supposed to demo my software at the National Association of Broadcasters convention, Microsoft decided to apply a .Net Framework update to my PC which rendered my compiler useless (I’m a software developer). There I was with two days remaining to get on a plane and my software wouldn’t even compile! I was running around the shop trying to find a PC that hadn’t been updated to move my work to and had to install my complete development environment on it which wasted an entire day. That’s when I learned to turn off automatic updates and only allow an update to run after making a full backup of my computer in case something goes wrong (because eventually it will).

    Guess what? Windows 10 doesn’t allow you to turn off automatic updates! Oh, you can disable it in the Services app all you want and Microsoft will mysteriously re-enable it from time-to-time and continue to download updates without telling you because they obviously know best. (I’ve had it happen to me on VM’s that I maintain for compatibility testing) Wait until you have a critical customer deadline and your PC stops working because Microsoft has applied an update without your consent that breaks the software that you depending on for your business. Because it will happen if you use Windows long enough. It has happened to me several times in my 33 years of using Windows since it was first introduced. Most of those times I’ve had a backup… once I didn’t. It only takes once to impact your business. Yes, this could happen with a Mac but so far, Apple has allowed me to choose when to apply an update and Time Machine keeps my Mac backup updated hourly.

    Then there is reformatting your Windows computer and re-installing all of the software every 3 -4 years. Windows computers get slower over time because the Registry gets larger and larger with every software package that you install and uninstall. After a while, it gets corrupt and things start behaving badly. The only solution is a reformat. Anyone who has used Windows for several years has encountered this. Why do you think there are so many registry cleaners on the market? (some of which do more harm than good) It’s a horrible Microsoft design that Mac’s don’t have to deal with. My 2013 MacBook Pro runs just as fast today as it did the day I got it. No central registry to bog down performance. You probably haven’t been using Windows long enough to experience this but you will over time. Yes, it’s all shinny and new in the beginning but then it’s downhill from there.

    As I have said many times, you couldn’t pay me enough to work on a Windows computer again. I’ve only used a Mac for the past 4 years but the experience has been very enjoyable and nothing like the problems I had with Windows. Windows 10 seems to be the worst with Microsoft declaring that it’s now a “service” that they continuously update. Greg, I know you’ve been using Mac’s for 25 years so maybe you have similar stories and I respect that you probably do. Maybe I need to spend 30 years on the Mac to have those kind of stories? Check back with me in 2043 and we’ll compare notes. ????

    ~jr

    http://www.johnrofrano.com
    http://www.vasstsoftware.com

  • Andy Patterson

    December 30, 2017 at 9:47 pm

    [John Rofrano] “Here is my PC experience that I know has happened to others in one form or another: Two days before I was supposed to demo my software at the National Association of Broadcasters convention, Microsoft decided to apply a .Net Framework update to my PC which rendered my compiler useless (I’m a software developer). There I was with two days remaining to get on a plane and my software wouldn’t even compile! I was running around the shop trying to find a PC that hadn’t been updated to move my work to and had to install my complete development environment on it which wasted an entire day. That’s when I learned to turn off automatic updates and only allow an update to run after making a full backup of my computer in case something goes wrong (because eventually it will).”

    System restore did not work? I always have automatic updates disabled. The Mac OS X updates can also cause problems.

    [John Rofrano] “Guess what? Windows 10 doesn’t allow you to turn off automatic updates! Oh, you can disable it in the Services app all you want and Microsoft will mysteriously re-enable it from time-to-time and continue to download updates without telling you because they obviously know best. (I’ve had it happen to me on VM’s that I maintain for compatibility testing) Wait until you have a critical customer deadline and your PC stops working because Microsoft has applied an update without your consent that breaks the software that you depending on for your business. Because it will happen if you use Windows long enough. It has happened to me several times in my 33 years of using Windows since it was first introduced. Most of those times I’ve had a backup… once I didn’t. It only takes once to impact your business. Yes, this could happen with a Mac but so far, Apple has allowed me to choose when to apply an update and Time Machine keeps my Mac backup updated hourly.”

    They are disabled on my Windows 10 system.

    [John Rofrano]
    Then there is reformatting your Windows computer and re-installing all of the software every 3 -4 years. Windows computers get slower over time because the Registry gets larger and larger with every software package that you install and uninstall. After a while, it gets corrupt and things start behaving badly. The only solution is a reformat. Anyone who has used Windows for several years has encountered this. Why do you think there are so many registry cleaners on the market? (some of which do more harm than good) It’s a horrible Microsoft design that Mac’s don’t have to deal with.”

    I don’t surf the internet on my editing PC. In fact I only connect to the internet about once every 30-40 days because of the creative cloud. My PC does not get slow. My Mac Mini has become a little slower since I bought it but it still edits video OK. I do a fresh reinstall about once every 2 years on my PC but not because the PC is slow. It is never slow. I do it for a fresh new installation of Creative Cloud. Keep in mind it is not hard. I do it 2 or 3 times total in the time I own the PC. The laptop I am using to write this has no antivirus or firewall. I go hog wild and willy nilly with my laptop when surfing the internet because there is no important information on it. I do a reformat on my laptop about once every 18 months. It does not need it but I like to do it.

    [John Rofrano] “As I have said many times, you couldn’t pay me enough to work on a Windows computer again. I’ve only used a Mac for the past 4 years but the experience has been very enjoyable and nothing like the problems I had with Windows.”

    You have to keep in mind not everyone has the same experience when using Windows as you have. Not to mention Apple has very limited options for the user.

    [John Rofrano] “Windows 10 seems to be the worst with Microsoft declaring that it’s now a “service” that they continuously update.”

    All operating systems get updates. Apple has been on OS X for over X years.

    [John Rofrano] “Greg, I know you’ve been using Mac’s for 25 years so maybe you have similar stories and I respect that you probably do. Maybe I need to spend 30 years on the Mac to have those kind of stories? Check back with me in 2043 and we’ll compare notes.”

    Obviously not everyone sees Windows as the nightmare from Washington. We will all chose what works best for our needs. Keep in mind there are Windows Enterprise installations that run year after year without fail.

    [John Rofrano] “Hmmm… I have been using a PC for over 35 years! Let me give you my “PC Experience”: I used CP/M on my Apple ][+ with a Z80 card before the IBM PC was invented (the pre-cursor to PCDOS). I’ve used PCDOS 1.0 – 5.0, Windows 3.1, Windows 286/386, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Millennium, Windows NT, Windows XP, Windows 7, and Windows 10 (I wasn’t foolish enough to use Vista or 8.0). I’ve bought PC’s off the shelf. I’ve built my own expressly for video editing several times. I have pretty much seen it all. Maybe I’m not the norm? but what is?”

    Vista and Window 8 worked great. Have you ever used FDISK? Have you ever changed the AGP aperture settings or the PCI latency settings?

  • Greg Janza

    December 30, 2017 at 11:03 pm

    John, thanks for the clarification. I didn’t mean to question your professional chops. You obviously know the PC world inside and out and therefore I can’t argue with anything you’ve laid out. I knew going in that the Windows environment was not going to be as elegant as my Mac and that there was going to be a list of annoying aspects of PC existence that I would have to endure.

    I think overall you and I are coming at our conclusions from opposite ends. Your many years of PC frustrations are not that dissimilar from my many years of Apple allegiance which became a long slow decline in allegiance due to their lack of component options lack of upgradeability and ever increasing product cost, which to me, can’t be justified.

    I hope you continue to love your OSX environment. It certainly is easier to maneuver than Windows and it does work consistently. I also hope that some of what you’ve laid out with long term Windows use is no longer the norm with Windows boxes because so far, Windows has delivered an equally consistent environment in which to work.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
    – Orson Welles

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