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Phillip Bloom goes to the dark side
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[Joe Marler] “What should scare Apple is how easy it is for people like Philip to move to Windows. He spends all his time in Premiere and that UI “surface” dominates the user experience. The underlying OS isn’t that visible to someone editing video 10 hrs a day. They’re smart enough to realize that PC hardware is cheaper, faster and upgradeable while maintaining largely the same experience at the application level.”
You’ve very eloquently stated what’s at the core of a lot of the posts here from folks like myself who have made the switch to a PC. 25 years of being a loyal Apple customer was completely erased the moment I made the decision to switch to a PC. And that decision was a direct result of Apple’s move to a limiting and non-upgradable product line.
And I agree that this fact should be concerning to Apple if in fact they actually want to retain the professional community. But whether Apple actually cares about the niche professional community is another debatable point.
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I don’t know, it looks like they offered him this box in hopes that he would do a cool review on it like he did. I would put this in a different category from a person that just went out and spent their own money on it.
He does great reviews, it’s a win for him and the box maker. As he said, I got nothing to lo$e.
All things being equal though, if apple had offered him a free iMac pro and he said “no thanks” then that would have been a story.
Apple could have offered him one but they didn’t. They picked Marques, who has a “huge” following. His iMP review is up
around 2 million compared to Bloom’s vid that has 22k.His large, young, hip following aside, Marques actually uses X. Unlike Bloom who uses Pr. I would have given it to Marques also.
It’s a neat video for someone who is interested in Pr or pc’s. I’m not currently interested in either, but I like Bloom’s videos. He’s an artist.
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Although I started this thread, mainly because I thought Phillip Bloom’s video was thought provoking, it certainly didn’t make me jump ship. I have used Mac’s since about 1985, through the good and bad times. Also, I took the FCPX fork in the road long ago and it serves my needs as an amateur film maker.
I plan to get a loaded new iMac as I just bought a Canon XF400 and plan to shoot in 4K. So while firmly in the Apple ecosphere, it is fun to look over the fence and see where the other fork has gone. Also, I am hoping the Apple promised Mac Pro will keep the momentum going for professional FCPX editors.
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[Joe Marler] “That was an *Adobe* Premiere render bar”
And I thought I was a pedant.
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I guess my response to all of this is similar to many political debates. You can “intelligently” state – “well, I am sticking with CS2018 and a HP Z840 or Boxx or Puget Systems because of this”. And the other side can say “well, I am sticking with FCP X and an iMac Pro because of this”.
Of course, I am neither of these people. I want it ALL to work. And I want to go to the BOARD OF DIRECTORS that really don’t care either way, as long as their corporation makes huge profits on the stock market, and has a wonderful 2017 bonus for themselves (after all, it is time for a new private jet – isn’t it ?) – and say “WHAT THE F#$$ is WRONG WITH YOU. Do you know WHO WE ARE? We are the ELITE of your user group, and WE are the ONLY ones that count – not your stupid iPad users, not your family – its US – US – PAY ATTENTION TO US. WE NEED THESE FEATURES, and you are going to do NOTHING else except pay attention to the PRO USERS, because WE put you where you are today.
Of course this is my fantasy, and they laugh at when they see posts like this (they never see posts like this – only their product managers do) – and our opinions really mean nothing. Just like the champion race car drivers mean nothing to the chairmen of Ford, GM and Chrysler, other than for a press event.If you are a race car driver, you do whatever you do, to win that race. No matter what Ford, GM and Chrysler does.
We must do the same. You get the tools that you need. If “brand X ” doesn’t make it – you do what you need to do.While I personally use Adobe, FCP X, Davinci Resolve, Cinema 4D, etc. – if it was not for AVID Media Composer and Digidesign Pro Tools, no one would give a crap about Apple. Does Tim Cook even know who AVID, Bill Warner and Eric Peters are ?
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[Bob Zelin] “We must do the same. You get the tools that you need. If “brand X ” doesn’t make it – you do what you need to do. “
How long has this forum been around now? Six years? I came back to it recently to find that little had changed in a long time. It’s a bit like people who say “I always buy Ford” “But you said you don’t like the current models” “Yes, but I always buy Ford”. They do exist. I’m not a psychologist, but I’m sure that one who was could write learned commentaries on that and similar instances here.
I’ve never had any kind of brand loyalty. I buy whatever suits for the job at hand, though I must admit that in a crowded equipment market I tend to lean towards Asus for computer parts. The one I avoid like the plague is the one that massively overcharges for everything and then stashes $250 billion on a desert island, doing nothing at all for society, or even it’s shareholders. Not naming any names.
So as Bob says – do what you need to do – and forget brand loyalty, they have no loyalty to you.
Bernie
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Got my iMac Pro yesterday. I just upgraded from a nMP 2013 (8 core/64gigs/dual D700) to the mid level iMac Pro (10 core/64 gigs/16 gb VRAM).
My impressions on day 1:
Very pretty machine, nice to have all the TB3 and USB 3 connections. Using all the USB3 and two of the TB3 ports.FCPX: very smooth. Tried an HEVC export and worked really well. Will probably replace X264 for client WIPS (X264 fails on this machine)
Resolve: works well on 4.6K RAW from my Ursa Mini; still need to use caching for decent playback of anything with FX
After Effects: is there any machine where AE doesn’t suck at realtime playback? Had a 4.6K ProRes 444 timeline and with Mercury Transmit enabled, still can’t play a RENDERED timeline at speed where it’s downscaled to 1080p for the monitor. WTF is wrong with Adobe and realtime playback? I’ve been using AE for years and they’ve been promising RT improvements the whole time and it never gets much better.
I’m torn between learning Motion or Fusion (totally different workflows) but AE is still a great jack of all trades, so I will suffer some while longer. Apple has already shown that it can get a graphics program like Motion to play in real time, at least for simpler stuff.
Per Philip Bloom’s trip to the dark side, I understand wanting some more performance boost, but that box he bought is butt-ugly and soul destroying. I know as a “professional” that stuff shouldn’t matter, but I’d much rather have my iMac Pro than a beast like that lurking around my desk.
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Bloom is an artist and I thought he had some nice shoots of the ugly box and the fans turning that looked cool. Glad to hear the iMac Pro is out and running.
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[Paul Golden] “I’m torn between learning Motion or Fusion (totally different workflows) but AE is still a great jack of all trades, so I will suffer some while longer. Apple has already shown that it can get a graphics program like Motion to play in real time, at least for simpler stuff.”
I would recommend Motion which is more like AE workflow than the node based workflow of Fusion. I moved from AE to Motion and Motion was infinitely easier to use. You don’t have to learn cryptic script commands like “wiggle” to get stuff to move. Motion has behaviors that you select from a menu and they just work. Way easier IMHO and just as powerful. I am completely Adobe Free (FCP X, Motion, Compressor, Affinity Photo, & Affinity Design).
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“I understand wanting some more performance boost, but that box he bought is butt-ugly and soul destroying. I know as a “professional” that stuff shouldn’t matter, but I’d much rather have my iMac Pro than a beast like that lurking around my desk.”
Does anyone still take the look of the box into account? I don’t care what the computer case looks like since I never look at it or even notice it.
I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
– Orson Welles
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