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  • Phantom clip discussion

    Posted by Steve Bayless on May 30, 2006 at 6:31 pm

    I wanted to see if there were any fresh perspectives on an age old dilemma in FCP. Back in 2004 there was some discussion about phantom clips in the timeline. Here’s the url.

    https://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/new_read_post.cgi?univpostid=686797&forumid=8&postid=692345&pview=t&archive=T

    Our situation is that we had a half hour timeline built and were trying to use the all track forward select tool to open a hole about midway through the program. Everytime we grabbed the selected clips, it grabbed a huge chunk of audio on track 1. If you moved it and released the mouse, it wiped most of the audio on track 1. When you tried to undo it caused holes in the edited sequence although would play the video in the holes. This sounds like the same issue as folks were having before. I went through the sequence and found that if I deleted certain audio clips, other clips appeared that were hidden behind them. Weird!
    Unfortunately the project got saved with the corruption and we found ourselves several iterations of the timeline later trying to undo the damgage.
    We finally exported the project as an EDL and stitched it together with the audio tracks in a fresh project. All seems well. We’ve learned a painful lesson. If you experience this, don’t save. Just quit and reopen the program.
    I just wondered if anyone else had some fresh insight into this.

    Peter Jordan replied 19 years, 11 months ago 5 Members · 5 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    May 30, 2006 at 7:24 pm

    Never happens here.

  • Mark Maness

    May 30, 2006 at 7:38 pm

    I’ve seen happen several times…. I thought it was jsut something wierd happening like corupted memory. I’d shutdown and restart my system each time it happened. Seemed to work.

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    Wayne Carey
    Schazam Productions

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 31, 2006 at 4:01 am

    This happened to me years ago on my first ever huge HD edit with FCP 4.5 and a blackmagic card (it was before the Kona 2 was released). It scared the crap out of me and I never posted about it because I thought people would think I’m nuts and that it was absolutely pilot error which was completely possible as I was learning each and every day about HD editing. I knew what I was doing seemed to be right (even though it was my first HD project) and I simply trashed all my render files, trashed my prefs a zillion times and reedited the parts I lost (luckily, I caught it in time before anything too drastic was lost). I have not seen the issue since especially since FCP 5. After that stressful project I upgraded to a Kona 2 when it was released and also upgraded my raid array which might have something to do with as well. It’s a crappy feeling and all I can say is I empathize. Upgrade to the FCP Studio v5 and this problem will go away, at least it did for me.

  • Steve Bayless

    June 1, 2006 at 7:26 pm

    We are using the current version of FCP, version 5 on a dual 2.5 G5 using BlackMagic’s Decklink HD card. That’s why I was so surprised to see the thread on this from 2004.

  • Peter Jordan

    June 1, 2006 at 9:06 pm

    I’ve had similar behavior in the past. Seems it was a corrupt Sequence. Was able to solve it by copying everything in the Timeline, creating a new Sequence, and pasting the material into the new Sequence. Hope that works. / Best, Peter

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