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watching the response on this closely. I’m having the same issue. Not so bad after rendering previews.
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[Dylan Hargreaves] ” have mine set-up so the media cache/prefs etc are all on my Mac hard drive, which should surely be faster than any external drive. Still I get the stutters and in bigger projects awful handling unless I render everything.”
You should have all your media on an external hard drive with the fastest connection possible (of course this various with the kind of media you play back). It should have a USB 3 or PCI-E connection for best performance.
Your Mac drive also has your applications on it. So things slow down when that poor drive is accessing apps and playing media and storing files all on the same drive.
Tom Daigon
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Biggest questions is your RAID, how you’re configured and your playback settings. And whether you’re using AVCHD or GoPro footage.
We generally drop our playback settings down to 1/2 when editing.
AVCHD can chunk a system to slower playback. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn’t on our systems.
GoPro native footage doesn’t scrub correctly and can cause slower playback.
Also, when doing a final layback to tape or playback for review, we bring the entire interface over to a single screen to avoid dropped frames.
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I use prores422 or h264 natively a lot form 5Ds and such. Is there a sequence codec setting that is preferable to edit with? Or always conform sequence to footage?
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I’ve been set to 1/2 playback quality. My video plays well rendered but not with unrendered previews. I do drop audio as well. Where it will play along and then audio will just cut out.
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[Brian Cooney] “I use prores422 or h264 natively a lot form 5Ds and such. Is there a sequence codec setting that is preferable to edit with? Or always conform sequence to footage?”
We always use the AVC-Intra 100 presets as our starting point since those are Square Pixel sequences. From there we modify and to suit the current needs.
Adobe doesn’t so much worry about the codecs in the timeline as it does the frame size, pixel setting and frame rate. As long as those match up with the majority of what you have in your timeline, you should be good to go.
Now if you have a red line above your footage in the timeline, you are open to dropped frames, stuttering and audio dropout during playback which will disappear once you render everything out.
We never conform anything anymore, we just throw it all into the timeline. Your RAID speed will be the determining factor on how much realtime performance you’re going to get, even beyond just the CUDA card in our experience.
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thanks that’s good news. So I will begin setting up AVC Intra-100 preset for timelines going forward. Would you anticipate better performance in a RAID 5 over just a single 7200RPM drive connecting via USB3.0? I had a RAID 5 array set up but began having issues with it and went back to single drives cloning backups nightly.
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[Brian Cooney] “thanks that’s good news. So I will begin setting up AVC Intra-100 preset for timelines going forward. Would you anticipate better performance in a RAID 5 over just a single 7200RPM drive connecting via USB3.0? I had a RAID 5 array set up but began having issues with it and went back to single drives cloning backups nightly.”
Any multi drive RAID is going to have better performance than a single drive in most cases. One exception is the new G-Tech Evolution series that promises 125MB/s and 200+MB/s via a single drive. Even there though, your media is unprotected.
We run 4, 8 and 16 drive RAIDs pushing a lot of speed to the clients.
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“This American Land” – our new PBS Series.
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Great thanks. I had tried a pegasus thunderbolt array in RAID 5 and also the OWC mercury Rack PRo thunderbolt in RAID5 and the OWC mercury Rack Pro in a Raid 5 configuration in miniSAS. I had issues with all of them running from a new 2012 iMac in mountain lion. it was frustrating. what do you guys use?
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[Brian Cooney] “Great thanks. I had tried a pegasus thunderbolt array in RAID 5 and also the OWC mercury Rack PRo thunderbolt in RAID5 and the OWC mercury Rack Pro in a Raid 5 configuration in miniSAS. I had issues with all of them running from a new 2012 iMac in mountain lion. it was frustrating. what do you guys use?”
That’s weird, you should have no issues with the Pegasus for sure, lots of folks run that one. I’ve not tried the OWC products.
We run almost 100TB of Small Tree Communications in RAID 5. 48TB of it is an older model ST RAID II that is connected to a 10gig card on a Mac Pro and then distributed by another 10gig switch to the workstations. Then we have 32TB on a new Titanium 8 that is also running RAID 5 via the 10gig switch. Very shortly, we’re going to replace the 48TB ST RAID II with a new 64TB Titanium Z model that runs even faster.
At home I run a 4 drive WiebeTech RTX unit with four 2TB drives I bought at Best Buy, I think they’re Wester Digital Green drives. Connected FW800 to my iMac in RAID 5. Don’t have any issues with that either, even playing 1 hour timelines.
Wish I could help you on that one, but all I can guess is that you’re running mixed formats and you will drop frames generally during playback with mixed frame rates / mixed formats, scaling but once everything is rendered out, you should be good to go.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Editor, Colorist, Director, Writer, Consultant, Author, Chef.
HD Post and Production
Biscardi Creative MediaFoul Water Fiery Serpent, an original documentary featuring Sigourney Weaver. US & European distribution by American Public Television
MTWD Entertainment – Developing original content for all media.
“This American Land” – our new PBS Series.
“Science Nation” – Three years and counting of Science for the People.
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