PERFECT TIMING!!!!!!

[Ron Thompson]

By the way, I am talking about the KonaLH. 🙂 I thought I was replying to the thread below…not making a new one.

[Walter Biscardi]

[Ron] “So this is basically a Kona2 card without the dual-link and other hardcore HD options, right?”

No Up-Convert either. But yes, this is basically the all the same features to the Kona 2 and it’s a definite answer to any CineWave user.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.com

Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

Now editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

[Tim Langston]

What about mixed formats on the same timeline….did I miss that? Please tell me I missed that…..

Tim

Tim Langston
Cryin’ Out Loud Productions
Fort Wayne, IN
http://www.colproductions.com

[Ron Thompson]

[Tim Langston] “What about mixed formats on the same timeline….did I miss that? Please tell me I missed that.”

If you missed it, I missed it too, because I didn’t see anything about mixed codecs. Still the only remaining advantage Cinewave has over other cards. But rumors have it that this will be native in FCP.
And if Avid did it in their lines, I’m sure Apple will follow.

One other observation, while the KonaLH is the new “must-have” card, after reading through all of the info, I’m still disappointed that AJA hasn’t introduced or upgraded their BOB’s. Cinewave and Aurora Pipe Studio has the right idea when it comes to I/O connectivity. Rather than share the KL box, AJA should introduce a new box with ALL inputs and outputs (comp, s, component, SDI, etc…).
If you’re running component dubs and need to run VHS approvals, for example, you still have to fiddle with cables and connectors unfortunately…because the three analog formats still share the same three BNC connectors. oh well…I guess with the money you’re saving with the LH, you can pick up SDI to s,composite,y/c convertors.

Ron

[Walter Biscardi]

[Ron] “inewave and Aurora Pipe Studio has the right idea when it comes to I/O connectivity. Rather than share the KL box, AJA should introduce a new box with ALL inputs and outputs (comp, s, component, SDI, etc…).”

Keep in mind that one thing you can do with the AJA boxes is use them as a stand alone pass through device. So if you have an SDI source and want to dub it to a component VTR you can do that as a deck to deck dub while you continue to edit in FCP. CineWave couldn’t do that and it’s a pretty nifty feature, especially when running the K2 and I can upconvert Beta tapes on the fly to an HD deck without using the computer at all.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.com

Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

Now editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

[Gary Adcock]

[Ron] “Rather than share the KL box, AJA should introduce a new box with ALL inputs and outputs (comp, s, component, SDI, etc…).”

Why?
the KL box does have all of those? SDI, Composite, Comp, S, 4 AES/EBU / 4 analog channels) why make a new bob for something when it is not needed.

From IBC

Gary Adcock
Studio37
HD and Film Consultation
Chicago, IL

[Ron Thompson]

[gary adcock] “the KL box does have all of those? SDI, Composite, Comp, S, 4 AES/EBU / 4 analog channels)”

no, it doesn’t. If you want composite or y/c, you need to configure the outputs of the ports. There is one component video output…3 connectors.
Component/Composite/S Video Input (3x BNC)
Component/Composite/S Video Output (3x BNC)
Cinewave, PipeStudio, DPS, and others have separate inputs/outputs for each, and in most cases ALL outputs are hot all the time.
Again, this comes in handy if you do VHS approvals, run external scopes, multiple decks, etc…
The only thing gained with the KL-Box is an extra set of RCA outputs.

[Walter Biscardi]

[Ron] “Cinewave, PipeStudio, DPS, and others have separate inputs/outputs for each,”

Except the CineWave Pro D&A BOB which does not have S-Video I/O. You need to use the same type of cabling that would be required with the KL-Box.

It does support S-Video, but you just need that same cable. If you really need / want the separate input for each, then you would probably be best off staying with one of the other three products you mentioned, or using the AJA Io LA instead.

[Ron] “Again, this comes in handy if you do VHS approvals, run external scopes, multiple decks, etc…”

You can always pick up a small router or patch panel to move your audio / video to multiple devices. For a scope I would simply loop the signal going to the monitor.

Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Creative Genius, Biscardi Creative Media
https://www.biscardicreative.com

Now in Production, “The Rough Cut,” https://www.theroughcutmovie.com

Now editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network

“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

[Ron Thompson]

[Walter Biscardi] “Except the CineWave Pro D&A BOB which does not have S-Video I/O”

Yeah, but I also have the ProAnalog which has everything already…as you already know.

[Walter Biscardi] “If you really need / want the separate input for each, then you would probably be best off staying with one of the other three products you mentioned”

Ok, you know that’s not an option! 🙂
Trust me I’m not complaining, and your suggestion about routers is a good one. When I move to the Kona, I’m trying to move with the LEAST amount of disruption to my setup. I know I will have to sacrifce some of the convienences I enjoy now.
I still need full SD functionality as well as HD readiness. So the LH is the best choice.

I appreciate the feedback. thanks.
Ron

[Jeremy Garchow]

You can tack on the io LA and use that as a stand alone video router (and also as another analog capture device for FCP if you need it on a laptop or whatever). It has standard S-Video, component, composite, balanced XLR outputs. It may make a difference for your output needs.

Jeremy

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