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  • Norman Willis

    October 23, 2009 at 1:45 pm


    I have been a member of the Creative Cow Vegas Forum for only a short time. However, I have loved it. John Rofrano is extremely helpful, and there seem to be a very nice home group of other people who all have a very sweet spirit of wanting to chip in, and help other people out. It is such a great resource, and a very nice online community.

    Lately, however, a man has joined the forum who seems to be bent on causing trouble. He starts arguments, insults people, and even advocates breaking the copyright laws on occasion. To me, Creative Cow has a very professional reputation, so I do not know if the Creative Cow wants to be associated with things like that.

    I thought I should bring this to your attention.

    Norman Willis

  • Ron Lindeboom

    October 23, 2009 at 1:52 pm

    Would you be so kind as to point out a few links, Norman? We would appreciate it.

    Ron Lindeboom

  • Norman Willis

    October 23, 2009 at 3:35 pm

    Hi Ron.

    I pray I am not overreacting, but here is a thread where a man advocates breaking the copyright laws, and seems to argue against redirection:

    And here is another thread with the same man using rude language towards Douglas Spotted Eagle, and other very helpful people, and basically stirring up an argument.

    The whole tone of the forum has changed since he joined a little while ago.

    Thank you for your consideration and help.

    Norman Willis

  • Ron Lindeboom

    October 23, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Hello Norman,

    He has been given the Execution Order. His account has been terminated and his posts removed, as well.

    Best regards,

    Ron Lindeboom

  • Norman Willis

    October 23, 2009 at 7:14 pm

    Thank you for caring about maintaining a helpful, safe, and courteous online community. The Vegas Forum has been such a blessing.

    May the Most High bless you for your help.

    Norman Willis

  • Mike Kujbida

    October 23, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    Ron, thank you very much for dealing with this issue in such a timely manner.
    It is definitely appreciated.

    Mike Kujbida
    Creative Cow forum host
    Sony Vegas

  • John Rofrano

    October 24, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    I had a private email exchange with him some time back (initiated by him not me). He seemed genuinely concerned about how his posts were being perceived and that he was just a hobbyist who is very enthusiastic about Vegas Movie Studio and he is focused on low cost / free tools for producing web video.

    I reminded him that, while it’s OK to bring different points of view to the conversation, we all need to be sure that we make our various points in a respectful manner. Since no one here was complaining I thought we’d see where it goes.

    Since someone was offended, I’m glad Ron, that you stepped in to make things right. Sometimes it’s hard to judge where someone is coming from but I agree that the posts were getting far off topic.


  • Norman Willis

    October 26, 2009 at 6:31 pm


    I apologize if I caused any trouble (it was certainly not my intent); but it’s so nice to have the calm, peaceful atmosphere restored on the Vegas Forum!

    Thank you, Ron.

    Norman Willis

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