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PCI Express the way of the future
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On a technical note, there is a major advantage to having both a PCI-E Graphics Card and Capture Card – throughput. Take an application like Motion 2. If you enable the QuickTime Output to the capture card, your frame rates plummet. This is due to the bottleneck of the AGP bus. With PCI-E, it is essentially a serialized and switched interface, as opposed to PCI-X which is parallel and hub-like.
This would then solve the bottleneck issues with Motion 2 and enable more real-time goodies that take advantage of the GPU.
By the same token, keeping PCI-X and replacing AGP with PCI-E would still be awesome, especially with the new ATI X1800. It would make today’s G5 look like a G3 with an ATI Rage 128.
I can now hear all of you with Upgraditis. Again, keep in mind that with this new motherboard, as with all new motherboard designs, it will take at least 4 months for the software guys to catch up with the hardware guys. So, if you are willing to take on the riggors of being an early adopter, more power to you.
Jeff Bernstein
Digital Desktop Consulting
Apple Pro Video VAR
XSAN Certified323-653-7611
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Interesting how I just read in Millimeter [which has become about a millimeter thick these days] how the TV show “Rescue Me” with Denis Leary shoots HDCam, downconverts to DVCam, and is offlined on ***Avid 7.1***!!!!!
AVID 7.1!!!!!!
My point being that the emphasis on equipment/upgrades/feature-chasing is somewhat overblown for most practical purposes of editing. I have a Meridien that is, for all intents and purposes, obsolete, yet it still works perfectly OK and I can still cut spots, promos, whatever on the, even with multicam.
The lesson, I guess, is buy well-made equipment that serves your needs and then don’t worry about it until you have to. I have a Kona 2 running off a G5 dp and I suppose I could be a viable entity with this for at least 4 years.
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[weevie833] “and is offlined on ***Avid 7.1***!!!!!
AVID 7.1!!!!!!”
Is that a true AVID 7.1 or the “new” AVID Liquid 7.1? Liquid is going to version 7.0 and will be rebranded with the AVID name.
Heck, FCP 3 still works just fine for cutting a show. We’re all just spoiled and feel we have to have the latest and greatest version of software. There are MANY times I wish I could have just stayed with FCP 4.5 and Mac OS 10.3.8 but I had too many TC errors mastering to tape.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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>>Is that a true AVID 7.1 or the “new” AVID Liquid 7.1? Liquid is going to version 7.0 and will be rebranded with the AVID name.
Copy reads “…Tolan supervises the offline editing process on Avid Media Composers v. 7.1 at her office in Pasadena, CA…”
I have a feeling you are right, and that it is likely a Liquid. But still…
steve
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I know why the AVID 7.1 ABVB system is being used – I have seen this over and over again. There are many “older” editors (I am almost 50, so I am old) out there, that learned on Quadra 950 or ABVB systems. They got their “settings files” on a floppy disk (now burned to CD), and even if they wind up on a newer Meridian system, or God forbid an AVID Adrenaline system – be it a MAC or PC – they CANNOT WORK unless they have their “AVID User Settings” from the V7.1 system loaded into the AVID system. It is these very “editors” that “can only work on the V7.1 system”. This is no different than the child that can only play on “their piano”. They obviously have been editing for a while, know the creative craft of editing, but DO NOT KNOW THE EQUIPMENT OR SOFTWARE – even after YEARS of working on it. They don’t want to learn anything new, and WILL NOT learn anything new. They paid $80,000 for the ABVB AVID, and DAMN IT – they are going to keep it until it drops dead. This is NO DIFFERENT than the old school film editors that insisted that the only way to cut a show was on a KEM, Steenbeck, or God help you – a Moviola Upright. There are younger editors reading this post, thinking that I am kidding, but I KNEW THESE GUYS.
There is only one thing to do with people like this – SHOOT THEM.
bob Zelin
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[Bob Zelin] “There is only one thing to do with people like this – SHOOT THEM. “
Here here bob!
gary
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Bob –
Shame on you for your condescending remarks about ‘older’ editors. In my shop, there is only one thing that matters: talent.
I employ one of the most talented editors in NY who has worked with many ‘name brand’ directors including Robert Franks [most of whose work at MOMA was edited by her] and she BARELY knows how to do more than cuts and dissolves. She has tremendous concept skills, excellent working relationships with clients, conducts herself with the highest level of professionalism, and has been a creative inspiration for me even after having done this crap for 15 years. And she still only uses the default settings on the Avid.
She has clung to the Avid boat since I’ve known her, and only now is being gently persuaded to the FCP side because of supportive encouragement by myself and some of her directors.
It is true that her technical limitations require an extra person to do graphics or color correcting, but this has only recently been an expectation of editors beginning, IMO, around 1998. Nonetheless, as a business owner and producer, it is MY job to match up the assignment with the talent and resources to get the job done. The same creative directors that have worked with me on jobs which had involved editing, AfterEffects, Illustrator, Photoshop, Cleaner, DVD Studio Pro, sound mixing and color correction have also requested working with Laura Israel — the person to whom this Apologia is dedicated — knowing that she does none of those ancillary tasks.
The creative directors clearly understand that they have an idea whose realization is best created with Laura in some instances, and with myself on other occassions. I have a great respect for this, and for Laura’s talent.
I think you should too.
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and from the horses mouth comes proof that bob really is a tosser and no apology is necessary.
peter
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Jeff,
interesting point
hum… did not understand everything: Bottom line: PCIe connected capture & graphic cards accelerate Motion 2 ??? or do you recommend a mixture ?
Documentary Director & Editor
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[Francois X] “Bottom line: PCIe connected capture & graphic cards accelerate Motion 2 ??? or do you recommend a mixture ?”
You mean a mixture of PCI-X and PCIe in one machine? Can’t do that, it’s one or the other. Older model G5, PCI-X. New Dual’s and Quad’s, PCIe.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.comNow editing “Good Eats” in HD for the Food Network
“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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