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  • PCI-Express Could Improve Performence 10 fold

    Posted by Sean Oneil on October 19, 2005 at 9:11 pm

    The best thing about PCIe is that it’s two-way. So for example, Final Cut 6 or Motion 3 could send data to your Nvidia or ATI card for super-fast and powerful 3D processing, and then send it back to the computer – allowing output over a Kona or recording rendered media to the disk.

    Currently, AGP and PCI-X can only work one-way at high speed. So anything it processes goes out to the computer monitor. That’s how Motion 1 & 2 works for example. You can get RT playback of incredible effects – but you can only watch it on your monitor. You can’t export it or output to tape without rendering it first. PCIe can do away with that.

    Think OpenGL preview in After Effects, but w/o the word “preview”.

    Sean Oneil replied 20 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 10 Replies
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  • David Jones

    October 20, 2005 at 2:55 am

    So what’s your point?

  • Samuel Frazier

    October 20, 2005 at 4:26 am

    Wow, that’s very educational. Thanks for that. I was wondering though, as apparently you can add additional graphics cards now, could you just add an extra card and and extra monitor and acheive the same basic result? I mean could you have say 2 monitors for editing and a third (through DVI) for previewing from FCP, Motion, AE, Boris Red, etc? Or, would this only work with FCP’s DVI preview (forget what they call it)?

  • Sean Oneil

    October 20, 2005 at 6:34 am

    [David Jones] “So what’s your point?”

    Pretty obvious since the new Powermacs w/ PCIe came out today.

    What’s your point?

  • Sean Oneil

    October 20, 2005 at 6:36 am

    You could technically have 8 monitors. As far as Cinema Desktop, I don’t know how it will work. I’m sure a FCP update will adress this eventually.

  • Hector Silva

    October 20, 2005 at 5:08 pm

    I think one very important question should be: will Motion and other software that use GPUs to render real-time see an improvement in speeds if more than one video card is installed in the machine?

    I can’t wait to see the throughput on PCI express SATA raid cards.

  • Sean Oneil

    October 20, 2005 at 6:10 pm

    I don’t think SATA will be as significant. Throughput is currently way faster than the drives themselves.

  • Samuel Frazier

    October 20, 2005 at 8:09 pm

    Is that where the logjam is with SATA? You see them listed as capable of 150 MB/s or 3.0 Gigabites/sec, but are told real world even the 3 Gig only run sustained at 65 MB/s. The whole thing is a bit of a mystery to me.

  • Sean Oneil

    October 21, 2005 at 12:20 am

    The interface is fast, but the actual disks themselves are very slow in comparison. Even a 15kRPM disk is nowhere near fast enough to max out a 150MB/s SATA channel. The high speed of SATA is to make it more future proof for newer technology.

    Sean

  • Dave Jenkins

    October 21, 2005 at 3:58 am

    We have a SATA raid that does 200mb a second. Four drives and a SATA card with four connectors.

    Dajen Productions
    Santa Barbara, CA
    G5 Dual 2 Gig – AJA IO & LA
    Huge 1.2 Raid
    FCP 5-OS X 10.4.1-QT 7

  • Sean Oneil

    October 21, 2005 at 6:15 am

    Yes, so divide that by 4 and you get 50. You have 150 MB/s of bandwidth per channel (each SATA connector is a channel). But you’re only using 1/3rd of that because the drives, individually, will not go faster than 50 MB/s.

    Sean

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