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  • Patchy format support

    Posted by John Benton on April 11, 2010 at 1:44 am

    I’m working with footage that is coming straight off a cheap Aiptek HD camera. When I try to directly import footage recorded at 1080P 30fps, it imports into FCP without issue and works fine. However, when I try to use footage from the same camera recorded at 720P 60fps, I get the following error message: “File Error: 1 file(s) recognized, 0 access denied, 1 unknown.” I cannot figure out why that format would not be supported. The apple site lists 720P at 60fps as supported. I currently use compressor to change the 720P footage into the HDV format, which works fine. However, I would like to save the time and the disk space of having to convert the 720P footage before using it.

    Here’s some info about the files raw off the camera:

    1080P:

    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Main@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 9913 Kbps
    Width : 1440 pixels
    Height : 1080 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 29.970 fps
    Resolution : 8 bits
    Colorimetry : 4:2:0
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.213

    720P:

    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Main@L4.1
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 7931 Kbps
    Width : 1280 pixels
    Height : 720 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Variable
    Frame rate : 59.940 fps
    Minimum frame rate : 59.920 fps
    Maximum frame rate : 59.960 fps
    Resolution : 8 bits
    Colorimetry : 4:2:0
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.144

    David Roth weiss replied 16 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 5 Replies
  • 5 Replies
  • David Roth weiss

    April 11, 2010 at 2:08 am

    According to the Aiptek website, all of their cameras record video as h.264, which is not an editing format. If that is so, you should transcode all of your video , not just the 720p material.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    EPK Colorist – UP IN THE AIR – nominated for six academy awards

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

  • Alan Okey

    April 11, 2010 at 2:48 pm

    [John Benton] “I’m working with footage that is coming straight off a cheap Aiptek HD camera.”

    Unsurprisingly, what you get is a cheap recording format unsupported by a professional editing application.

    [John Benton] “. The apple site lists 720P at 60fps as supported.”

    Only if it’s in a standard editing codec like DVCPRO HD, XDCAM EX, Apple ProRes, Uncompressed 8 or 10 bit, etc. h.264 is a delivery codec, not an editing codec. It’s a highly compressed codec that’s optimized for low-bandwidth playback, not frame-accurate editing.

    Do a quick search of the Cow FCP forum for h.264 and find out how to work with this format (if you must).

  • Rafael Amador

    April 11, 2010 at 3:27 pm

    [John Benton] “. I currently use compressor to change the 720P footage into the HDV format, which works fine”
    And don’t go from a very compressed format to another very compressed format one.
    The codec that would let you extract all the quality from your rushes, would be 8b Uncompress.
    But that makes too big files,. Prores is probably the best option.
    rafel

    http://www.nagavideo.com

  • Kevin Monahan

    April 11, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    If your camera is not on the list of supported devices, you can’t expect it to work in FCP.

    https://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/resources/supportdevices.php

    Your camera is not supported, sorry you didn’t see that link before you bought that camera.

    Kevin Monahan
    60 Blu-ray Templates for Final Cut Studio 2009
    http://www.fcpworld.com
    Author – Motion Graphics and Effects in Final Cut Pro

  • David Roth weiss

    April 11, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    The good news is, the most expensive camera they sell is $160.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor/Colorist
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    EPK Colorist – UP IN THE AIR – nominated for six academy awards

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Apple Final Cut Pro, Business & Marketing, Indie Film & Documentary, and Film History & Appreciations forums.

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