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Partial rendering to AVCHD in Vegas 9.0 Platinum
As per John Rofrano’s suggestion I am starting this new thread with a hope that I will get a solution for my problem from a wider user base.
Although I have used earlier Adobe premier elements, I am a novice to the use of Vegas platinum edition. I have shot a video on my trip to someplaces in India in HD using Sony HDR SR11.The length of the Video is approximately 2 hours. While editing the Video in Vegas 9.0, I have inserted a few title slides as well as two video clips (non HD) from .avi files. I am rendering the completed Video into Sony AVC format using the given AVCHD 1920X1080 NTSC template. My intent is to load back the edited Video onto my camcorder using the Picture motion browser and play it on my HD TV.(This was the recommended procedure from Sony). While rendering the video, Vegas crashes after different time intervals. I am able to view and upload the partially rendered Video. I have tried the following things to render the full video without success. I have increased the virtual memory to 30GB. I have reset the number of rendering threads (from preference-video tab) to 1. I have split the Video into 4, 30 minute segments and try to render them separately. I am unable to render the 30 minute footage also.
Here are the details of my PC.Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66 GHz CPU
Opearting system: XP
Memory 4Gb DDR2
Internal Hard disc: 400Gb. 4 partitions. C drive 100Gb.The Vegas software is residing on the C drive of my internal hard disc. The media files are on an external USB hard disc of 500Gb capacity. I am rendering the files to this external hard disc.
I have found that any rendering of video footage of more than 17mts which in my case corresponds to a rendered file size of approximately 1.8Gb results in partial rendering only.
Is there an inherent limitation in Vegas which limits the file size that can be rendered? As explained above, my basic need is to edit the HD AVCHD footage and load it back to the camcorder for viewing on the HD TV without any loss in clarity. Any solution that can achieve this would be great.John,
After I posted my last posting, I rechecked and found that the last video footage was indeed rendered although the computer did show a message “Microsoft… has encountered a problem and the application has to be closed.”. Hence my problem now appears to be that Vegas crashes after rendering footage upto about 15 to 20 mts.
In all cases, the computer do not crash. If the problem is due to CPU overheating, should not the computer also crash?
Thanks,
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> In all cases, the computer do not crash. If the problem is due to CPU overheating, should not the computer also crash?
No. Computers protect themselves from overheating by throttling down the CPU speed which may cause an abort in a process. You need to make sure it’s not overheating by checking the inside for dust, using a CPU temperature reporting program and/or rendering with the case open just to see if you get further or to completion.
~jr
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John,
As suggested by you I triend rendering with the case open. In fact I also had an additional fan(Battery powered) blowing air directly to the CPU heatsink. That did not help. In fact the tool crashed after partially rendering about 4 minutes of Video (rendered video length: rendering time around 1 hour). The CPU was just warm to touch. I next tried cropping the video from 1hr 30 minutes to 30minutes, saving this 30mts video as a separate file and rendering this video in a new project. This time the tool crashed after rendering a 12minute footage. This time there was an error message saying that Microsoft encountered a problem and needs to shutdown the application.
I am really frustrated and do not know what to do? There is no consistancy and the net net result is that I am unable to view the painstakingly edited video on the TV. Am I doing something fundamentally wrong and stupid?
Just to reiterate the flow that I have followed is as below:
I captured the video using my Sony HDR SR11 camcorder. The captured video is close to 1Hr 45mts.
I imported the video to my computer(details of the computer given in my earlier posting) using the supplied Handycam utility. The files were stored as a number of .m2ts files.
I then imported all these files into Vegas and then edited the video by introducing audio (music and Voice)and a few text slides.
I then rendered the video in Sony AVC format using the given template.
Is this flow the correct one? As informed earlier my intention is to load back the edited Video on to my Camcorder using the Sony picture motion browser and view it on the HDTV.I also went through Sony customer support knowledge base and as per one suggestion, I tried breaking the footage to smaller timed footages, saving each as a separate projects and then rendering them separately, opening a new project and importing these rendered videos and stitching all of them together. The rendered videos were saved as .M2TS files and when I imported these in the project media of a new project, I found these were shown as .m2ts files and not as .M2TS and when I started rendering, it started rendering all over again at which time I thought it was useless as I knew the tool will again crash if it has to rerender the entire footage.
Can you please suggest a work around? Is what I am doing something unusual? Is loading back the edited video on to the camcorder to view on a TV not common? In the absence of a blueray burner, how do people view the edited HD video on a HDTV? -
I agree it’s frustrating. You said in your original post that you are using an external USB drive for your files. I would try copying the files to a local hard drive just to rule out that USB port as a potential problem. I’ve had difficulty with USB drives loosing their connection. Is there anything else the error says? Any indication of what caused it? Unfortunately, there is not much to go by.
~jr
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Hi John,
I will try your suggestion. In the mean while, I would appreciate if you can throw some light on my other questions:
Is what I am doing something unusual? Is loading back the edited video on to the camcorder to view on a TV not common? In the absence of a blueray burner, how do people view the edited HD video on a HDTV? Is there any other method I can use? -
> Is what I am doing something unusual? Is loading back the edited video on to the camcorder to view on a TV not common?
I don’t believe it is very common no. Cameras are usually used for acquisition and not delivery. It’s also not very practical? You will need to keep copying videos to your camera every time you want to watch them and then delete them to make room to record more.
> In the absence of a blueray burner, how do people view the edited HD video on a HDTV?
You can store about 30 min of HD on regular DVD media. Vegas can do this right from the timeline. You will need a Blu-ray player to play it back. Blue-ray burners and only $299. There is really no excuse not to own one if you want to deliver HD.
> Is there any other method I can use?
There is no need to mess with shiny plastic discs at all. Get yourself a media server and save your content to that. There are some that plug right into your TV using a local hard drive as well as others that connect wired or wireless to your PC or LAN.
~jr
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Hi John,
Thanks. I am a bit of a novice and hope you do not laugh at my rather fundamental questions below.
1. How do I burn my edited High definition Video on to a DVD directly from the timeline? Do I need to render and if so, what rendering format I should use?
2. How do I save my edited conents on a media server? What does the media server do and where can I get them? I stay in India. I would certainly be very interested in getting one which I can directly hook on to a TV.Thanks,
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> 1. How do I burn my edited High definition Video on to a DVD directly from the timeline? Do I need to render and if so, what rendering format I should use?
This may be a Vegas Pro feature that is not available in Movie Studio. See if you have the menu option: Tools | Burn Disc | Blu-ray Disc… If not, then you can’t do it. I’m also not sure if the DVD Architect that comes with Movie Studio supports Blu-ray but if it does, you could burn to regular DVD media.
> 2. How do I save my edited conents on a media server? What does the media server do and where can I get them? I stay in India. I would certainly be very interested in getting one which I can directly hook on to a TV.
You would still have to render to a format that the media server supports. Something like the Western Digital WD TV HD Media Player should do the trick. There are others if you look around.
~jr
http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com
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