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Panny Pro Plasma break-in procedure?
Posted by Brad Bussé on November 10, 2009 at 10:03 pmI know that modern plasmas are less prone to burn-in and image retention than older displays, but it still seems like it would be a wise idea to run a break-in procedure. I’ll be breaking in a new 58″ 11UK display. I’ve been reading that plasmas should be broken in for 100-200 hours. Does anyone have advice for this? I found the following thread in which the first post says to break in for 120 hours using provided settings and downloadable video file which loops a 1920×1080 image using even colors that cycle, and cycling slowly through the shades of grey from black to white:
https://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1128487The settings provided are for a 12G monitor, so I don’t know if corresponding numbers should be used for an 11UK or 12UK display.
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Walter Biscardi
November 10, 2009 at 10:16 pmWe’ve never done anything like this. Just turn on, set it up the way we want it in the menus and go.
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Brad Bussé
November 10, 2009 at 10:30 pmThanks Walter,
My concern is that this monitor will primarily be displaying game footage, which has HUD elements that are static and constant. Have you ever experienced image retention on a plasma when working with footage that has a station ID (not a jelly bug, but the full opacity type), or when leaving color bars up for a few hours?
I know that LCD is supposed to be pretty much impervious to image retention, but after 3 years my aluminum 24″ ACD displays developed a bad case. Normally it’s not very noticeable in FCP or AE, but as soon as I open up Shake, the darker shade of grey of the UI makes it really obvious – it almost looks like Shake is being displayed at 80% opacity – I can see all of the windows that were displayed previous to opening Shake for a couple of minutes.
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David Roth weiss
November 10, 2009 at 10:42 pmIn your case Brad, follow the manufacturer’s instructions, and also, it’s a good idea to use one of the setup features in the menu that’s designed to prevent burn-in in just the types of situations you’re working in. As they say, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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Walter Biscardi
November 10, 2009 at 10:48 pm[Brad Bussé] “My concern is that this monitor will primarily be displaying game footage, which has HUD elements that are static and constant. Have you ever experienced image retention on a plasma when working with footage that has a station ID (not a jelly bug, but the full opacity type), or when leaving color bars up for a few hours?”
Yes, you can get image retention. We see this especially with black letters on a white screen. Even after 30 seconds.
There is a setting in the menus called Wobble I believe, or something like that. It moves the image by one scan line every so many minutes to alleviate something like this.
But we’ve never had a full scale burn in on our screens. Sometimes there is a little image retention which disappears usually within about 10 minutes. I’ve heard that if you do get an image burn in, put up a white screen to remove it. But we’ve never had to do that.
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David Roth weiss
November 10, 2009 at 11:10 pm[walter biscardi] “Yes, you can get image retention. We see this especially with black letters on a white screen. Even after 30 seconds. “
Try yellow sometime… Yellow text on football scoreboards was really infamous for the ruin of many an expensive plasma panel in the early days. There was nothing like hanging a 60-inch $10,000 plasma on wall just in time for the Super Bowl and having a reminder of the game’s outcome forever burned into the TV’s phosphors.
Thankfully those days have changed and the technology has improved greatly, but not entirely. So, don’t go out to lunch with a large bright yellow graphic up on your monitor for two hours, or that meal will be more memorable than you’d like.
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Chris Borjis
November 10, 2009 at 11:15 pmyep what walter & david said. (I have a 9uk at work & home)
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Mark Raudonis
November 11, 2009 at 12:05 amAgree with all of the above, and I add this warning: Old school DVD players would put up a “static” logo of their brand if no disc was playing. That’s killed a couple of our plasmas when some knucklehead left took out the DVD and left it on all night.
Was no fun seeing “Samsung” on every light shot thereafter!
No break in process for us either, and we’ve got a bunch of Panny’s 50’s & 58’s. If you’re reasonably sensible about it, they’re OK. But don’t leave bars up for longer than necessary.
Mark
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