Pan/crop and borders

[Mike Kujbida]

Pan/Crop now has to be positioned AFTER the border for it to show.
Doing this is the same as using the Pre/Post toggle in Pro 8.

[Tom Keane]

Thanks for the response, Mike. That didn’t seem to do the trick.

The border I want is the bevel as the photo will appear mounted on a matte (solid color) and this border provides a nice edging.

I went back to previous projects and found that I used the border FX on full images so I suppose for this image I could crop outside of Vegas and bring in the cropped photo as a full image and that would work. Just adds an additional step.

I also noticed that when I pan/crop, I’m not “stretching to fill frame” because I want the reduced size on the background, however it seems that Borders FX only uses the full frame for the border.

So another workaround might be to pan/crop and stretch to full frame, add borders FX, and then use track motion to reduce the size of the image with the border. I just didn’t want to lose quality by using track motion to resize.

I’ll get there, I just thought borders FX would do what I wanted on a Vegas pan/cropped photo, and I was getting frustrated that I couldn’t figure out how to do it.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

[Mike Kujbida]

Tom, right-click on the image while you’re in Pan/Crop and select “Match Output Aspect”.
That should (hopefully) get you to where you want to be.

[Tom Keane]

Thanks Mike, but your suggestion changes my crop box to match the project settings. I want to keep my crop box my size and simply add a border to the new size.

I’ll crop in photoshop and bring in the cropped image and put the bevel on it in Vegas. I’m sure that will work.

Thanks for the response.

[Mike Kujbida]

Tom, after you “Match Output Aspect”, use Pan/Crop to resize the image as desired.
I do this all the time when I’m shifting images around on my screen to be a specific size in a specific location (for example, shrinking and placing a large logo in the bottom left or right of the screen).
The other option is to do the bevel in something like Photoshop and bring that into Vegas.

[Tom Keane]

Thanks, Mike.

I’m a bit determined when it comes to getting the look I want, so I’ll get there. Thanks for the help.

[James Houghtaling]

Just did a few tests in V11 and Sony Borders will always place the border around the entire screen regardless of how you may crop the image in the event.

[Tom Keane]

Thanks for checking, James.

I found I can get what I want by setting the “stretch to fill frame” to yes in the pan/crop properties. Then applying the border FX and I get the border I want around the cropped image (albeit quite a bit larger than I want). But then I can reduce the image with track motion to get the size that I want. Seems a bit round-a-bout (vs. simply framing the crop), but it gets to the look I want.

Thanks for the comment.