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  • Panasonic Plasma with Kona 3/HD Link

    Posted by Jerome Thelia on October 4, 2007 at 9:23 pm

    I’m having some trouble setting up a Panasonic plasma 42PZ700U to bars.

    My hardware config is as follows: MacPro with Kona 3 and K3 breakout box, component SD to a sony CRT and HD-SDI to Blackmagic HD Link box to HDMI into the plasma.

    Problem is as follows: bars with blue only option on the HD Link isn’t affected by an adjustments I make to the HD Link gamma controls, fine I won’t use that feature. Otherwise, bars in blue only appear normal in terms of saturation and hue, although clearly the panasonic is much more saturated and much greener than the correctly set up Sony CRT. To make matters worse, the only way I can get a hint of pluge to show up so the black aren’t absolutely nailed on the Panasonic is to turn the brightness way up on the monitor and bump up the blacks for each channel (RGB) in the HD Link gamma controls.

    Is anyone else having trouble setting up these monitors to bars using Kona? Should I give up on HDMI and go component analog? Clearly there’s banding with HDMI as a result of an 8bit limitation in HDMI 1.2 apparently. Can someone recommend good color calibration software that will work with this plasma? Thanks much. -Jerome

    Walter Biscardi replied 18 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Walter Biscardi

    October 4, 2007 at 10:04 pm

    have you gone into the Advanced Color Settings? Also, ensure you’re not in “Dynamic” mode on the plasma. Makes the blacks really black and the colors scream.

    I’m able to get the Panny plasma really close to my Sony CRT, but it is always a bit brighter and more colorful than the Sony. You won’t get it to match perfectly, you can only get it really close.

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  • David Roth weiss

    October 4, 2007 at 10:20 pm

    Jerome,

    Why are you using the HD link to control the monitor? Have you simply tried sending a flat factory default signal through the HDLink into the Pany monitor and setting-up the monitor through its own controls?

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  • Aaron Neitz

    October 4, 2007 at 11:07 pm

    My thoughts exactly. Set the HDlink to a flat output, and then use the Panny’s controls to get it as close as possible. Then gently tweak the HDlink curves to get those last little bits locked down.

  • Jerome Thelia

    October 6, 2007 at 8:32 am

    Thanks for the suggestions. I’m doing exactly that: flat at first, adjust the plasma, then tweak the HD Link. The plasma doesn’t take HD SDI without the addition of the very expensive add-on board, so the HD Link converts from SDI to HDMI. But it seems that without the HD Link there’s no way to get the internal plasma adjustments to get even close to the right black level. What’s also troubling is that bars look wrong when the CRT matches. When I set up to bars the image is way too green. So I’m wondering if others are just eyeballing the plasma adjustments, using color calibration software, or setting up successfully to bars? Thanks- Jerome

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 6, 2007 at 9:57 am

    [Jerome Thelia] “So I’m wondering if others are just eyeballing the plasma adjustments, using color calibration software, or setting up successfully to bars? Thanks- Jerome”

    I eyeball mine based on our Sony CRT monitor. We simply run Component inputs into both of our Panasonic Plasmas from the Kona 3. Really no need to run HD-SDI or even HDMI from the editing system.

    Only one of our units has an optional HDMI input and that’s just for the BluRay player.

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  • Jerome Thelia

    October 6, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    Thanks, good to know. And how do you get two sets of component outputs from Kona 3, or are you using a splitter or DA? I guess using component outputs will bypass the 8-bit limitation inherent in HDMI as well.

  • Walter Biscardi

    October 6, 2007 at 4:49 pm

    [Jerome Thelia] “And how do you get two sets of component outputs from Kona 3, or are you using a splitter or DA?”

    Loop through from my Sony CRT. Works perfectly in both rooms.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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