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  • Panasonic P2 slow motion

    Posted by James Roche on November 20, 2006 at 9:33 pm

    Hello
    I’m working at Maryland Institute in the Video lab, where we just bought several Panasonic ag-hvx200
    Cameras. We have been recording our HD with an external FS-100 fire store drive, and we are running final cut 5.1.2 on brand new G5’s.

    Everything is good except we cant figure out how to get final cut to log and play slow motion footage shot and log on to the fire store drive.

    Could someone walk us through the process of shooting footage in the 720/24pn setting, getting it on our drive, and into final cut in slow motion? Is there a plug in that we need why is there so much conflicting literature about this?

    Thanks,

    james

    Shane Ross replied 19 years, 4 months ago 6 Members · 9 Replies
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  • Shane Ross

    November 20, 2006 at 9:37 pm

    For slow motion, you need to shoot 720p60 and use the DVCPRO HD Frame Rate Converter (supplied with FCP) for this.

    Here’s a tutorial:

    https://forums.creativecow.net/cgi-bin/page_wrapper.cgi?forumid=8&page=https://www.creativecow.net/articles/ross_shane/dvpro_hd/index.html

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • James Roche

    November 20, 2006 at 9:55 pm

    Shane
    I have watched your tutorial but it is not the way that the panasonic shoots slow motion. It does it in camera, using the 720/24pn setting then setting the desired frame rate (slow or fast in the menu) is there any way to do this with
    our version of final cut pro and the fire store??
    thanks

    james

  • Shane Ross

    November 20, 2006 at 11:18 pm

    [James Roche] ” it is not the way that the panasonic shoots slow motion”

    It is EXACTLY how the Panasonic shoots slow motion. You shoot 60p to get 60 full frames of video, then use the frame rate converter to convert those 60 full frames into 24 full frames (or 30) to achieve slow motion.

    [James Roche] “It does it in camera, using the 720/24pn setting then setting the desired frame rate (slow or fast in the menu)”

    Not according to my experience. 24pn gets you 24 frames per second running at 23.98. No frames to extract from that.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 20, 2006 at 11:35 pm

    [Shane Ross] “Not according to my experience. 24pN gets you 24 frames per second running at 23.98. No frames to extract from that.”

    Not true. the beauty of the P2 system is that you can put the camera in 24pN mode (as long as you are recording on to P2 and not the firestore) and over-crank and get the exact files you want at the frame rate you want. For example, put the camera in 24pN the over-crank it to 60fps and when you bring that take into FCP, your footage will be slowed down running @ 23.98fps. You will lose audio on the recording so please keep that in mind if you need audio.

    Jeremy

  • Shane Ross

    November 20, 2006 at 11:51 pm

    This is what I get for not owning a camera. Just injesting the footage.

    Thanks for that.

    Shane

    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

  • Steve Eisen

    November 21, 2006 at 2:49 am

    The P2 workflow and FS-100 workflow for FCP are different. Currently, the FS-100 does not support Native frame rate recording. An update IS coming. The HVX-200 can be set to 720 24P, 24PA, 30P or 60i or 1080 24PA. On import, make sure you have Remove Duplicate/Adv. pull-down frames. This will allow you to edit in a 23.98 timeline. With the exception of 60i.

    Make sure to check out the FS-100 FCP workflow at focusinfo.com.

    Steve Eisen
    Eisen Video Productions
    Director-At-Large
    Chicago Final Cut Pro Users Group

  • Gary Adcock

    November 21, 2006 at 8:37 pm

    [Steve Eisen] “The HVX-200 can be set to 720 24P, 24PA, 30P or 60i or 1080 24PA. On import, make sure you have Remove Duplicate/Adv. pull-down frames. This will allow you to edit in a 23.98 timeline. With the exception of 60i.”

    With off speed footage, you need to handle the content just like one does wehn working with content from the Varicam, the Firestore records the offspeed content as flagged frames always within the 59.94 timebase.
    Video from the firestore needs to be run thru the Software FRC in FCP. Using the remove Flagged frames does not always work from the Firestore originated files.

    gary adcock
    Studio37
    HD & Film Consultation
    Post and Production Workflows

  • Michael Rothman

    December 13, 2006 at 4:57 pm

    Hey Shane,
    i saw your post for the turorial on the 60p conversion.
    I downloaded the plug in from panasonic and don’t
    see the conversion option in the tools menu that was
    shown in the tutorial. Any suggestions?
    THnks for your time.
    Michael

  • Shane Ross

    December 13, 2006 at 6:07 pm

    This isn’t a plugin. It is a tool that you install separately from the FCP disk. It should be located in the EXTRAS folder.

    Shane

    FCP Preferences set to UNCONTROLLED ADVICE
    Littlefrog Post
    http://www.lfhd.net

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