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Panasonic p2 & JVC HDV 100U
Hello to everyone!!! I am new here, however, I have been reading this forum for the last couple of weeks. I have seen some of the footage some of you all have posted and I am blown away by the talent here. I am also very impressed with the knowledge you all have about shooting HDV & HD. Here is why I am posting:
I have been shooting for years on the XL-1, XL-1S, and finally the XL-2. I have a production company in South Florida and we recently aquired the JVC 100U in Feb. I know that camera has it share of problems, but I must say that the “Film Look” on that camera is absolutly amazing. Our clients love the look and style that we produce with anything shot in 24P.
Then came the Panasonic P2! This is another amazing camera and I knew it would not be long until cameras were created so that footage would go straight to a card. We bought this camera three weeks ago, and I have played around with some of the settings on it- mainly the 24P and the slow motion “overcranking” effects. This is a feature that I know I will use like crazy.
For the first time in a very long time I am setting out to begin shooting an indie film that involves airplanes. In a week from now I am heading out to run some tests on both of these cameras and I am hoping to walk away with some shots that I may be able to use for my indie film.
My question is: What settings do I use in FCP? I know this question has been asked several times, but I think this may be a unique situation because I am using HDV footage from JVC-100U mixed with footage from the panasonic P2. I am guessing that 720P/24P is the way to go on the JVC. What about on the panasonic? I plan to shoot some slow motion on that camera as well. Has anyone had luck matching the settings between the two cameras?
My final output will be to DVD and Beta SP. Keep in mind that I want to retain the film look. I am also planning on buying a decklink card for my G5 2.0 dual processor. Is that a good card to use?
Thank you for your help on this matter-
Jon
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[Statusfilms] “What settings do I use in FCP? I know this question has been asked several times, but I think this may be a unique situation because I am using HDV footage from JVC-100U mixed with footage from the panasonic P2. I am guessing that 720P/24P is the way to go on the JVC.”
The best way to do this is use a capture card and capture the JVC content as 720p DVCPROHD from the 50 series JVC deck so that you can maintain the 24p workflow ( there is no direct use of 24p in HDV in FCP)
The AJA Kona LH/e cards were specifically created for this workflow. AJA even has a white paper on working in 24p content from the 100U camera on their website.
https://aja.com/pdf/support/AJA_whitepaper_HDV.pdf
this will alleviate most of the headaches from mixing HDV and Native DVCPROHD content inn the same project. It is also the preferred manner to post in HDV according to JVC and Canon
gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
Chicago, IL
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Some great information I came across regarding both of these cameras.
https://www.bluesky-web.com/HDVHVX.htm
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That article is a little misleading in as much as the JVC camera was never doing anything it didn’t do well or one could easily work with, i.e. no 24P. Also the conclusions that I see that the guy drew stating there was more resolution was more like more detail enhancement and not resolution at all.
The problem that I see our original poster having is taking the two totally different codecs and merging them. I see that Gary has made a fairly good suggestion for dealing with it.
Best,
Jan
Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
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The poster is using both cameras. Resolving a codec is just the start of the issue. Getting them to match up lookwise is another matter entirely. The article gives good examples of both cameras in a variety of settings and should provide good insight as to what to expect in post production.
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[JerryZ@BH] “Getting them to match up lookwise is another matter entirely.”
I would disagree with that Jerry,
when handled in the manner I outlined in the AJA workflow (and in Walter Graff’s online article) The 2 cameras camera do actually have surprisingly similar color characteristics — as long as the frame blending function is turned off on the JVC camera.
The long GOP HDV Compression causes a separate layer of issues with moving subjects however.gary adcock
Studio37
HD & Film Consultation
Post and Production Workflows
Chicago, IL -
Thank you very much for everyone’s comments. I will print these out and take a look at them.
Give me a few months and I will be able to post some cool trailers of what the screenplay is about from footage shot between the two cameras. I am very excited about this project, and I look forward to your comments after I finish the trailers.
Take care- and again- Thank you,
Jon
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The link to the article comparing the two cameras will provide you with some excellent, objective, and real world information. The article has been widely praised for it’s objectivity and fairness. dv.com also has some good comparison articles.
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