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  • Panasonic HVX 200 Quality

    Posted by Pipito on September 17, 2007 at 9:48 pm

    Hi,

    I am about to shoot a documentary with the Panasonic 200 and I am trying to get the best quality possible. Looks to me that 1080 60i looks better than 720 30pn. but from what i heard, i should be able to get a better quality with native 720. To me the 720 30pn looks a bit noisier than the 1080 60i. Do you guys have any recommendations?? Is there a difference between 1080 60i and 720 30pn?

    thank you,
    Luis

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  • Walter Biscardi

    September 17, 2007 at 9:58 pm

    720p/60 is my favorite format for HD.

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  • Soreyrith Um

    September 18, 2007 at 2:53 am

    Many knowlegeable users at the DVX User website, say that 1080 has about 20% more resolution than 720. But shoot 1080p24 or p30 because it’s much better than interlace. Shoot 720 if you need higher frame rates.

    The camera converts the CCD data to 1080 first. Then it down converts to other sizes.

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  • Chris Borjis

    September 18, 2007 at 3:33 am

    I’m a huge advocate of 720P myself, but in the special case of DVCPRO-HD I prefer the 1080i version to the 720P version after reading about the codec comparisons and differences by Marco Solorio’s Test results.

  • Shane Ross

    September 18, 2007 at 3:59 am

    We shoot and work with 720p60 and 720p 24PN footage, and deliver 1080p masters on HDCAM. All looks great on this end. But these cameras are all B-cameras to our Varicam, which shoots 720p60 and 720p24, so we need to have the ability to intercut the two.

    No complaints yet, only compliments.

    Shane

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  • Rafael Amador

    September 18, 2007 at 8:53 am

    Hi Shane,
    I haven’t had the chance of working with the PANASONIC HVX 200 but I was considering to buy it. Now the Sony XDCam EX has been released and looks great. Do you thinc that this camera (420, MPG2, etc) will equal the quality of the panasonic (DVCProHd..). I want to start to shoot HD but I can not thinc to go to a higher standard or model. Thanks for your advice,
    rafael

  • Ken Summerall

    September 18, 2007 at 12:07 pm

    [rafalaos] “Do you thinc that this camera (420, MPG2, etc) will equal the quality of the panasonic (DVCProHd..).”

    Rafael,

    I’m not Shane (on many levels) but at this time my opinion is that DVCPro HD is the better format simply because it is much easier to edit. My understanding is that XDCAM is basically HDV. That means that it is a long GOP format and that means it is more trouble to edit. Of course, you can get around this with a capture card, but then you lose some of the time advantage of shooting solid state.

    Of course, the decision is ultimately yours and must be based on your needs and what is available to meet those needs at the time.

    Hope this helps,

    K

  • Rafael Amador

    September 18, 2007 at 12:17 pm

    Hi Ken,
    Thanks for your advice. I’ve been following a thread in the “CineAlta” forum basically comparing XDCam with DVCProHD. There they say that with the new Flash-memory of the XDCam EX, the workflow will be easier and faster than with P2 cards. The workflow is a very important issue but now I’m more interested in to comparing the picture quality that the two formats can offer. The XDCam EX has been just released so probably we will have to wait few weeks untill we can get some impartial feed-backs.
    Cheers,
    rafael

  • Ken Summerall

    September 18, 2007 at 12:29 pm

    [rafalaos] “There they say that with the new Flash-memory of the XDCam EX, the workflow will be easier and faster than with P2 cards.”

    What workflow? According to this https://ibc.mikkowilson.com/ there is no NLE support for XDCAM EX yet.

    Also, red this thread for a Panasonic perspective: https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/193/866842

    Again, it’s your decision. Which tool will give you the greatest opportunity to be an artist?

    K

  • Rafael Amador

    September 18, 2007 at 12:46 pm

    Well Ken the support is a matter of time. SONY is SONY. Hoever the 420 sampling has been a deception for me. I expected a 422. SONY could have make a revolution with this camera but as you says, I start to think too that is a HDV re-packaged.
    Anyway, no hurry-up. Time to wait.
    Cheers,
    Rafael

  • Ken Summerall

    September 18, 2007 at 12:54 pm

    [rafalaos] “Well Ken the support is a matter of time. SONY is SONY.”

    You are right, but my point was, “How can you judge the ease of workflow when there is no workflow?”

    Anyway, you are smart to not get in a rush.

    Cheers!

    K

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