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Panasonic commitment to P2?
Accountclosedduetopolicyviolations replied 20 years, 7 months ago 16 Members · 30 Replies
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Eleventy
October 1, 2005 at 5:54 pmAnd not forgetting that a P2 card is actually nothing more than a container with an industry standard PCMCIA-connecter. What it contains is not important. At the moment it’s a bunch of SD flashcards, but if a better/bigger/faster technology comes along, there’s nothing stopping Pana putting it in a P2-card, as long as it fits in the container. Your camera doesn’t care if it’s sending its data to SD-cards, somekind of nanotube memorymembranes or fermented cowdung.
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Joe Womble
October 1, 2005 at 7:53 pmI do believe that Serious Magic is developing a DV Rack alternative to the Firestore and P2 card approach.
Cre8tive
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Jan Crittenden livingston
October 1, 2005 at 8:16 pm[Brian SaenzDeViteri] ”
If that is really the case, then why can’t we take the firewire out from the HVX200 to any hard drive based recorder that can handle the Firewire date rate? Shouldn’t that function the same as an HD1200A deck without the tape? Or do we HAVE to use a Firestore device for this style of deck-based recording with the HVX200?”Well on the HD1200A you would have to push the record button. I don’t know of a Hard Drive that has a record button which is why you can do it on a 1200 and not to a HDD.
Hope that helps,
Jan
Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
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Ron Shook
October 1, 2005 at 8:38 pmMatthew,
[matthew Romanis] “The fact that the P2 card is 8G and has the data rate to handle HD100 already makes it 6 times the 4g CF card for data transfer rates.”
8gig Professional grade CF cards have a data rate of, I believe, 110 Mb/same, which is roughly the same as P2 cards, isn’t it? If they weren’t at least close to that fast, Infinity couldn’t use ’em.
Ron Shook
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Ron Shook
October 1, 2005 at 8:43 pmEleventy,
[eleventy] “fermented cowdung”
Sounds cheap enough for me. What’s the URL for these cards?
Ron Shook
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Jan Crittenden livingston
October 1, 2005 at 9:12 pm[Ron Shook] “8gig Professional grade CF cards have a data rate of, I believe, 110 Mb/same, which is roughly the same as P2 cards, isn’t it? If they weren’t at least close to that fast, Infinity couldn’t use ’em.”
Actually the transfer on each SD card is 20MB, that’s Bytes not bits, and the P2 in total because of the Raid is 640Mbs.
Hope that helps,
Jan
Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
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Barry Green
October 1, 2005 at 11:39 pm[matthew Romanis] “The camera is already rather large in comparison to Z-1 and such”
Actually the camera is basically the exact same size and weight as a Z1.
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Randall3
October 2, 2005 at 12:10 amTo get the footage into a HD1200A, use the 1394, no need for HD-SDI. There is no difference between the compression at the HVX200 or in the HD1200A, none whatsoever. HD-SDI would only be useful if you had a RAID that would handle 1.2GBps of data.
Hi Jan,
Right, of course. I like the 1200A – it is a portable 12V deck, afterall. Given a 1394 hook-up to the camera – what would it take for your engineers to add a ‘record-pause’ command through the 1394 to the deck? That would pretty cool and sell a lot of 1200A decks…ahem.
As far as HD-SDI out – there are times when 10bit video comes in really handy. Such as in keying work. It would be nice to have the option.
Thanks for the reply – you’re doing a great job!
Randall
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Shawnmitchl
October 2, 2005 at 1:10 amHey….thanks for all of the responses. I really appreciated the input from Panasonic. My knees are still a little weak but at least my whole body isn’t in convulsions. Can’t wait to have the HVX 200 appear and see how it performs. It certainly has whetted my appetite.
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Ron Shook
October 2, 2005 at 5:47 amJan,
Well, P2’s sure gonna transfer faster than CF. I was sure off. Thanks,
Ron
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