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Panasonic 1200A deck printing to tape?!
Jan Crittenden livingston replied 17 years, 9 months ago 6 Members · 15 Replies
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Shane Ross
December 18, 2008 at 4:36 amWhat are you yelling at me for? Where on earth did I say that they could EDIT TO TAPE? The OP said that they had P2 footage that they needed to back up:
“I am trying to print to tape from a FCP sequence to the Panasonic 1200A deck and am encountering some problems (like many i have read on other threads)…We shot P2 footage in 720p60 at 23.98 fps and now I need to deliver masters on Panasonic DVCPro HD tapes.”
PRINT TO TAPE. I guess I should have been more clear in saying “you need to crash record, you can’t Print to Video.” And someone ELSE (Chris Borjis) brought up insert editing…not me: “no insert editing without a special trick if I’m not mistaken.”
Bob, all you had to do was clarify my answer by saying that they needed to crash record.
We shot a lot of P2 on my last show…or two shows back now…and the client would not accept P2 masters. So we output to tape (stupid, I know…no matching timecode to the masters used in the sequence) by hooking the 1200 to the Kona 3 and crash recording.
Now get off your high horse and get a hair cut…
:^)
Shane
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Catherine Yrisari
December 18, 2008 at 4:11 pmOk from looking at this little dispute :)… I need to crash record the P2 sequences onto tape and can’t do Print to Tape or ETT. How do I crash record if I can’t print to tape from FCP?
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Walter Biscardi
December 18, 2008 at 4:52 pm[Catherine Yrisari] “I need to crash record the P2 sequences onto tape and can’t do Print to Tape or ETT. How do I crash record if I can’t print to tape from FCP? “
Yes you can Edit to Tape from FCP even with a 1200A. I did it for several years. What Bob and Shane are talking about is you cannot make a clean edit anywhere in your master because there is no flying erase head. So if you have an issue with your master, you need to start the recording all over again at the beginning of the tape.
The other big problem with the 1200A is there is a major frame offset from what you will set as your in point and this varies from 1200A to 1200A. It was 11 frames on our machine and it was consistent enough that we delivered 1 season of Good Eats in HD to the Food Network off our machine with no timecode issues.
So what you do is black the head of the tape with whatever timecode you need to start out with. Here it’s always 00:58:00:00. You black about 20 seconds of the tape.
Now you want to start your Edit to Tape at 00:58:10:00. With the frame offset of the 1200A, I would set this to 00:58:10:11. The Edit to Tape would actually start at 00:58:10:00 on the deck and I’d be good to go.
You can only perform an Assemble Edit with this method, Insert Edit and sorts of edits within the master are completely out.
The 1200A is a very flaky machine when it comes to recording, but if you own one you can figure out what the frame offset it and it usually very consistent allowing you to make a very accurate master to tape.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
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Chris Borjis
December 18, 2008 at 11:44 pmif the 1200 doesn’t do what you need (and every other deck does) and the 1400 DOES,
that is for SURE more user friendly. -
Jan Crittenden livingston
December 19, 2008 at 11:33 amHi,
If you cannot get the machine to obey the Print to Tape command, jus pur a couple more seconds on the front of your timeline of color bar and put the machine into record. Make sure that from your 23.98 time line you have told it to add back in the 2:3 pulldown. This step is not mentioned above and sometimes easily overlooked. Make sure the machine is set up for 720P input. and you should be good to go.
As far as the 1400 being able to do an insert edit, it will only do so under RS422 control not under 1394. Just to keep things clear.
Hope you get your projects rolled off to tape,
Jan
Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, HPX500, HVX200, DVX100
Panasonic Broadcast & TV Systems
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